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07-23-2015 , 02:15 AM
I get aq in late position with a few limpers, raise to 10 on an average 1/2 table. I get 1 caller, the limpers were part of 3 black guys who are on my right. The caller just came from another table to sit with his friends who he came with. They questioned him moving between them and said they should spread out through the room. So he seemed a bit fishy, but he did come with a deep stack and I had 195.
So flop come 2 5 q rainbow, I bet 20 and get called. On the turn its a brick and I bet 60, and get raised allin.
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07-23-2015 , 02:21 AM
Raise bigger pre if there are a few limpers (I assume maybe 3?) you should be making it around $16-$18.

As played I think V has a set, either 22, 55 or the "brick" you said which I'm guessing was either a 7, 8 or a 9.

C-bet flop smaller (you bet the pot) for around 60% pot, fold turn, set seems likely.
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07-23-2015 , 02:30 AM
I wouldn't call the turn a brick considering that's the street you get shoved on.
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07-23-2015 , 02:49 AM
Brick is pretty relative man.

What was the specific turn card?

In general a raise in a spot like this is gonna be either a set, a slow played over pair (sometimes)or a strong draw so it's important to know whether the card was suited or connected with the board at all.
BTW there is not one ott that isn't. Every single card either fills a four straight, is an over, or board pairs.

You can get away with a fold generally w any one pair facing this action at this stake but more info definitely necessary.
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07-23-2015 , 03:57 AM
WP if you called.
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07-23-2015 , 07:58 AM
I'd often say 'bigger pre' but you got it HU so not really an issue here. I do like bigger bc it sets up the rest of the hand w stack sizes and bc $10 just isn't enough to punish limpers/define their hands for post flop play.
Pot sized bet on the flop seems good to me.
When he calls, what range are you putting him on preflop? What about now that he's called the flop?
I think you can include KQ and QJ in his range. This could also be a funny hand like JJ or TT or he could have flopped a set or spiked the turn. Over pairs seem somewhat unlikely given the pre flop action but not completely out of range.
As played, you bet $60 OTT, you have about $100 behind and the pot, after he shoves is something like $280. Given stack and pot size, I don't think you have any folds here.
With a 100bb stack, raised pot, TPTK, you're probably ready to GII HU. I think you're ahead more than half the time here and given pot size, that makes this an easy call.
If V shows up w a weird 2 pair like Q5 or 52, you'll know to raise bigger pre to punish his limp calls w junk.
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07-23-2015 , 04:37 PM
Vs. random black guy who came to the table to play with friends + getting over 2:1, I'm definitely not folding. I've seen enough KQ in similar spots
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07-23-2015 , 04:42 PM
I need more reads on the guy -- at least the vibe you got. If I think he's gambly and will his big stack to push people around, I call. If he seems nitty or tight, I fold.
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07-23-2015 , 05:52 PM
$15 pre.
$25 on the flop.
$60 on the turn and calling the rest of it off.

$10 pre, with AQ, is just too small over a bunch of gambool gambool bingo playing limpers. As played, probably calling it off.
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07-23-2015 , 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by volcano41
I get aq in late position with a few limpers, raise to 10 on an average 1/2 table. I get 1 caller, the limpers were part of 3 black guys who are on my right. The caller just came from another table to sit with his friends who he came with. They questioned him moving between them and said they should spread out through the room. So he seemed a bit fishy, but he did come with a deep stack and I had 195.
So flop come 2 5 q rainbow, I bet 20 and get called. On the turn its a brick and I bet 60, and get raised allin.
I'm far from a pro at this, but:

1. How many is a few limpers? Is this a standard raise at the table? It sounds as if we're talking about 3-4 limpers, so I'd have raised to at least $20 in this situation.

2. If I'm doing the math correctly, as played, you have $90 committed after your turn bet ($10 PF, $20 flop, $60 turn) and the pot is around $325 or so with the all-in? I don't see how you can fold with the SPR here.

3. Just because it's a brick to you doesn't mean it was to the opponent, does it fit the range for hands that would make sense for him to play this way? I mean, I can see hands like 22, 55, a pocket pair that matches the 'brick', KQ, QJ and perhaps a few more queens, some straight draws?

Again, I haven't read other responses and I am still learning myself but those are my thoughts in this situation. Hope there's something value in there - would love to be corrected if something I have brought up is just plain wrong.
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07-26-2015 , 01:18 AM
As it stands he had 22 for a set on the flop. I still feel bad about calling his allin because ive been making good folds lately. I feel his allin gave me a chance to fold.
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