why is this the first time you are disputing the 11k?

6k+5k sounds like 11k

how much profit did you have over that period of time? break it down by hours/stake/etc would be helpful

based on that profit-how much did you owe kydd for his share as backer?

The Internet at the airport has been blocking my posts if I understand it correctly

Kydd hasn't fully explained how we cut up profits.

That is a very important piece of the puzzle

I haven't taken the time to go over the exact numbers.

Will do it within next five hours

From what I gather. Dane had an 11k roll and had made like 9k in profit so the total he was supposed to have was 20k. When he arrived at MD he only had 9400 of the 20k he should have had(dane clearly worked at FTP). From that 9400(which was supposed to be profit on top of the 11k roll) kydd took his cut from it, leaving Dane with about 2500 of the original 11k stake(he apparently spent 8700 of it) this is how the numbers have trickled down, as far as I can see.

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so you won 1473 during that time?

so how do you have between 9400-9800 on you?

math check:

6000
-4400
_______
1600
6000
_______
7600
1473
_______
9073

I emailed you all the exact numbers. It's in the first email I sent you and I posted it again in this thread.

I'm accusing you of not giving me the bankroll money back. You're trying to factor in a lot of things that happened months ago, unrelated to me giving you the money, to justify not having to give me my money back.

Hotel rooms have nothing to do with this deal. If they did, you have to have receipts, and the bill has to be split between myself, TAO, and Christine because we were the ones in the room without you. It can't just be the highest rates and put on me. I'm the one who has a casino host and plays $10/$25 and $25/$50 she can get me weekends free, so why would I pay you for weekend rates? If you wanted to sell your comps you shouldn't have said they were free at the time, and they should be sold for the cheaper days, because I would use mine on the more expensive days.

This is irrelevant and off the topic of you having, or more accurately, owing me $11k. I think everyone is waiting for you to make a valid argument as to why you don't owe.

He can't dispute the 11k, tao already confirmed that. The issue is did you have 9k of profits in your pocket when you took the 11k?

Not sure if I spent too much cash

Spent like 20 bucks buyin food at the table (no hummus fwiw, they were all out)

I don't think I spent any thing over $20 bucks

Before the deal he somewhere around breakeven at 1/3. After the stake he was crushing games. Also, aside the point though.

Why would you start a thread about this exact issue without actually doing this work? It seems this is the crux if the whole disagreement and yet you"haven't taken the time to go over the exact numbers".

Your arguments make very little sense and lead me to wonder if you are on drugs or have had some sort of emotional breakdown.

I don't know I haven't done the proper methodology for how we split up profit

Chad should explain how he thinks he does it because I'm ****ing lost.
And part of the reason I don't have alot of money is may be because I would just give chad the bankroll and usually trust what numbers he came to

Fml I'm going to owe mpethy coaching

Actually that may be fun

Oh and my phone is ****ing up too lol

DHCG, I deleted the photo because there was lots of identifying info in that picture, including a credit card. I saved it before I deleted it, and I will put it back in if you want, but I personally think that'd be a horrible idea.

Man this is messed up. I've never met kydd but did I meet dhcg in vegas this summer and hung out with him a few times. he's a v cool dude and he had nothing but good things to say when talking about kydd and their staking agreement/situation.

What I don't understand is how the stake got so messed up after Vegas. It would be helpful to separate the $$ issues from the personal issues and get a few facts straight.

When was the last time you guys were all squared up with the stake?
What was the bankroll at this time?
What was the profit sharing agreement at this time?
How much did the stake make after this?


According to kydd, you guys were squared up after Vegas on july 24th and dhcg had an 11k bankroll. since then it was stated that dhcg made ~9.7k profit playing in california. So upon arrival in maryland, shouldn't dhcg have had ~20.7k and would owe kydd (if the stake was terminated) the stake itself off 11k plus the % of his share of the 9.7k he was owed at the time. Am i missing something.

Not really. He was asking what were his returns of the 68k in profits? And where did that money go? How is it that he always had the BR you provided and none of his own? I know its a staking deal but it seems like he used your BR for personal expenses.

And a side question... Staking DOES NOT include tips, those are on the person. But how did you trade tips? Seems hard to do for $1 tips.

If I were you I'd get rid of the photo that has my credit card #, expiration date, and name on it.

And also get rid of the driver's license.

glad your taking this as serious as kydd (roll)

I'm just trying to be objective and maybe help you guys work this out in a relatively amicable way. You don't owe me anything.

FWIW, up until today, this stake seemed to be GREAT for you, and I would hate to see something so good for you end over some sort of misunderstanding, w/e.

How can you level such a serious accusation without having done the math to determine if he actually screwed you or not?

So you squared up before the 11k? Chad says you didn't. How did you not know if you had almost 10k in your pocket when he gave you the 11k?

I can see why you think you got scammed. But if all you are going to do is say idk if I had 9k when he gave me the 11k then you are in trouble. It makes a world of a difference.

After that you say you have 10k in maryland. But walk out the room with what you say was 2k, when kydd and tao said you had 4k. You say he took 7k. Now you say idk.

A stake is not rocket science. You have to be clear on all transactions, money spent and paying your taxes(staking agreement).

It's fine I'm not worried about that. But of you think it's a bad idea that's ok. Keep it off if its a cause for concern

This is such a mess.

Personally I think this has a certain sense of poetic justice. Karma police for months and months of dbaggery and telling people they suck etc etc. Own your shyt, you're young and can bounce back and rise again. But further digging yourself in will never set you free. Pretty clear case against you, countered by a rambling defense only Hunter S Thompson could piece together.

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"Sunday at 4. I think I have around 11k in cash and I gotta get to like 15k to make it right." -Dane


That is the proof that dhcg owes 11k + profit. Dhcg never said I owe that but minus the hotel rooms. Kydd took the profit. Time to pay up 11k.

The issue is how much Kydd took in MD, which he said he took what he was owed from the $9773 profit.

Good point ace. That piece of info proves dane had 11k plus 9k. Said he needs to have 15k to make it right.

What's your claim now dhcg. You said it yourself 11k + 4k which would be the profit share of 9k.