FWIW... Thread is open to anyone. If a potential horse has some questions they are free to ask it. In fact I think it's beneficial to Kydd to answer them. With that said, my personal opinion is that the horses would be better off asking Kydd questions in private.

That's exactly what I was trying to say.

I didn't mean that he shouldn't post what he posted, but clearly his original post was aimed to rattle dhcg.

The HU match makes no sense.I think its foolish if you to expect your % back after you lose to him and he really has to be brain dead to accept that.

You came off way different though.

Fwiw I am with venice... Anything goes that is in connection with this topic. My personal opinions don't matter in this case.

Now back to the thread.

I'm really hurt over the issue. I've even cried over it just because Dane was my best friend and we had a lot of fun together. Now he's out to get me because he's afraid to admit he was wrong in blowing the bankroll money I gave him.

To go from this:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...stcount=110279

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=81992

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=80797

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=71073

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=50145

To what he's saying now i just incredibly inconsistent. I feel like it shows a person who is scared to face the repercussions of his actions and is just running from the truth.

Not in the least. I simply am seeing character attacks and nothing to back them up.

Kydd is being far more concise in his reply's and rebuttals. I think I have a pretty good idea of where I stand on this matter. I read DHCG thread earlier when I was looking in PG&C as references in Kydd's original PM to me. I agree that things seem off with DHCG.

Drugs never play well. Wish him the best.

We will wait and see what he says after he lands but this is not looking good and looks like a cry for help.

As the only 3rd party witness to the events in Maryland, I feel obligated to post something. I'll preface this post by saying that this is difficult for me since both dhcg and Kydd are people that I care about, on a personal level, and I do not want to take sides.

I'll attempt to simply state the events I have witnessed and I'll try not to inject any opinionated statements into my post.

Business experience with Kydd and dhcg
I have a PGC thread that I created when the staking first started. More details can be found there: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/17...horse-1343485/

Cliffs
-I met dhcg through 2p2 PMs/posts
-I met Kydd through dhcg
-I was intrigued by the idea of staking and asked dhcg if Kydd might be interested in staking me, he suggested I talk to Kydd and I did so
-I agreed to being staked by Kydd
-I am currently staked by Kydd

After 3 months, I am still being staked by Kydd. I have no plans to break it off in the near future. In my own personal experience (to be clear, I am not speaking for anyone else), Kydd's professionalism and quality of coaching has exceeded my expectations.

It should be clear that I am choosing to be here because I truly want to and not because I feel pressured by any external factors. Luckily for me, my degree, work experience, and personal contacts as a PharmD allow me to walk away from this deal whenever I feel like it while still being able to support myself with a 6 figure salary. I do not personally feel abused in any way though I understand that others may or may not have had a different experience and opinions can differ. I speak only for myself.

dhcg/Kydd Dispute

Dhcg, Kydd, and I went to Vegas for the WSOP. After our run was done there, we each went our separate ways for awhile. I traveled back home to NJ, Kydd went to Pittsburgh, and dhcg went to California. Kydd gave dhcg a larger than normal bankroll (since convenient add-ons weren't going to be a possibility) which I believe amounted to 11k (6k + 5k extra).

After a week or so, Kydd and I met up in Florida for the $10 mil guaranteed tournament. After a 2 week stint there, we both decided to travel to Maryland to grind at the brand new Maryland Live poker room. In the meantime, dhcg was in California.

After 2 days in Maryland, dhcg eventually joined us. At the hotel, I watched Kydd and dhcg attempt to square up the results of the last month. It didn't go well.

Dhcg had substantially less than 11k in cash on him even though results indicated that he had won several thousand over the past month and that he should have had much more than 11k. Instead, there was something like 6k-7k cash on him. When asked where the rest of it was, no clear answer was given. Dhcg handed Kydd the cash he had, Kydd took about 3k or 4k (which Kydd claimed to be his rightful cut of dhcg's past month of reported profits). This left dhcg with about 3k in cash left.

With this ~3k, we went to grind. We only played that night and the next morning. In the morning session, Kydd was basically falling asleep at his 10/25 game. I drove him back to the hotel (5 min away) so he could sleep, then I went back to the casino. While I driving back, dhcg texted me to tell me that he busted his remaining roll and wanted to go back to the hotel, as well. I obliged and drove him back. While Kydd was still sleeping, dhcg packed his stuff, and left.

The most important part of this story is, obviously, the cash exchange. I will be honest and admit that I did not personally see any hard copy of records. I cannot comment on whether the discrepancy in money is due to poker losses (which would then be attributed to "make-up") or miscellaneous spending. I cannot, with 100% certainty, say what is owed to whom because I don't have access to any indisputable records of staking agreements or reported results. What I can say, as a fact, is that 11k was allotted to dhcg in Vegas and that, for whatever reason, he had much less than that when he came to Maryland.

I might be acting naive but I am still retaining hope that this misunderstanding can be solved in a way that placates both parties. I don't believe either Kydd or dhcg is intentionally "scamming" but, rather, each truly believes in his own innocence.

What doesn't make sense is dhcg only having 3k out of 11k. I just googled acid. Fairly inexpensive. So he couldn't have bought 8k worth of drugs. I know dhcg is bad with money( a confirmed not life nit) but at the same time he wouldn't blow 8k on clothes? Must be a good reason why he doesn't want to pay the 11k.

Money is the root of all evil.

Most likely, the bolded, not the last part, no matter what the real issue is. It may not have been an intentional scam but that doesn't mean they seriously think they are innocent.

Acid's relevance to this thread has very little to do with its expense.

In other news, a lady friend was reading this thread over my shoulder and she would like to convey that she wants to read more about two dudes rubbing on each other in a hotel room.

Lmao, I always suspected some funny business. Now it was just confirmed.

It could have everything. From long term side effects to immediate irrational decisions.

If you have ever known an addict, things go downhill fast.

In very close proximity to the room at Live! are high limit table games and slots. I haven't really been in other casinos, but I would imagine more than one guy who went to play poker lost money not playing poker, no matter where it was.

back. I see a bunch of things wrong that Kydd has responded to.

I would say there are lies but its abundantly clear that Kydd is either lying, or he believes the things he is saying

I tend to think the latter is true, and if that is the case, then a mental breakdown may be imminient once he sees that his view of reality is build upon his imagination

the reality you convince yourself is incredibly powerful

I think this is a more appropriate time for Q/A as more information has become available.

if you guys would like I can assume the role of a bad guy and defend myself just as well as I could if I was a prosecutor

the point of a trial or a mediation is not to punish an individual but to find the truth and use it to solve a situation

let us begin

What happen to the 11k? Actually 13k since you won some on top of the 11k? It has been confirmed from someone else you got 11k in vegas.

Dane will be spending the next day in Pittsburgh and I will be spending time with him. As per discussion with him and chad, I will do my best to mediate the situation and express my neutral opinion on what is owed etc. I think the main thing to be discussed in this thread is what is owed to chad from Dane as chad is saying it is 11k but Dane is saying it is less. I think the personal beef should be handled between them two it's none of our business and discussing it publicly is never a good idea IMO.

I think it should be noted that I came to the hotel room with $9400 and $2k in my checking account as well as $900 that western union gave me

do you acknowledge this kydd?

DHCG, he made some serious, specific allegations. So far, you have made general claims about what sort of person he is. Do you see the difference in why people are making posts which seem supportive of him?

Further, if these are lies, what, exactly, is the situation? What evidence do you have as to what happened? What is your counter to the $11,000 story?

If you don't have something good and plausible to post, if I were you, I wouldn't post another word in the thread.

did you spend the majority of the 11k roll he gave you in vegas on drugs only or was it a combo of drugs, poker, food and other things?

The heads up game needs to be further explained I think. So if kydd wins he obv keeps winnings, but if he loses he gets 1/3 refund?

Too late can't take it back, lol.

My next flight leaves in 2 hours.

lets do it.

we want to know what happened to the 11k?

yea hes essentially freerolling 1/3 from what i gathered