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09-04-2013 , 07:47 PM
nice post tao
09-04-2013 , 07:59 PM
Look up the definition of lie
Then truth
Then wrong

Then libel
09-04-2013 , 08:02 PM
Oh and stop being a coward

Chad lies

I already have proof of that

It's like at the beg of this page

I tell the truth. Well my perception of the truth

Always

If I am wrong or if I don't know I will say so

And I'm not always going to be right. Sometimes I'm wrong. And that's ok because my motive wasn't to deceive (lie)

(Motive is key )

That's what iirc is for

IF I RECALL CORRECTLY

You were too cowardly to accept my truths

You chose to accept chads

You chose to make that post saying things you knew for a fact

Right?

Or did someone else make it?
09-04-2013 , 08:04 PM
dane-

are you an abusive person?
09-04-2013 , 08:06 PM
I have been many many times and I still do

I am working on it as much as I can

No excuses

I will Always place the mission first
I will Never accept defeat
I will never leave a fallen comrade
09-04-2013 , 08:07 PM
Here we go again. I thought you had a aha moment? Why are you calling people cowards again? Just stop man.
09-04-2013 , 08:07 PM
ok well at least your definitions stay the same


this was in regard to kydd lying at one point (that was been admitted to)
09-04-2013 , 08:10 PM
I understand that he lied about liquid cash/other things. I am not denying that. I accept what you have told me.

I am talking about the dispute about owing money. I don't think either of you are lying about the exact figures, I just think there is a misunderstanding about the exact figures and I have no idea what they are.

Unfortunately, I do not have the information to clarify the exact numbers for either of you. I do not know exactly who owes who what because there are too many details over too long of a time period, much of which I was not a part of. Nobody has records of any of this other than you and him.

Last edited by TAOxEaglex; 09-04-2013 at 08:30 PM.
09-04-2013 , 08:17 PM
Serious question, which head where you guys rubbing in the hotel room?
09-04-2013 , 08:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dhcg86
I have no recollection of the bolded

I am not saying it isnt true, but have no memory of such events
You deposited $200. You made $927. Account balance roughly $1,127, and I say roughly because to my recollection you actually had $closer to $1,250 so maybe there was a session between when you told me your profit and when I played.



After that, around July 4th you came to Christine's Vegas grind house for a party. I was also staying there. After everyone went to sleep, the four of us (you, me, Christine, Marc) stayed up while I played $5/$10 and you all were sweating. I ran the account balance up to $3,350. I have a text screen shot of this that I will not post because it also has your account info on it. You can look it up in your phone on July 8th at 6:20am. We discussed before hand that whatever I lost I would pay back and whatever I won you would pay me.

On July 8th, I played $10/$20 and lost your account balance. The total balance was $3,350, but I had also not been paid for the $2k+ I won. I paid you what I lost the next time I saw you. Nick and/or Dan were potentially witnesses but I don't know if they remember or saw for sure. Looking at my numbers, I see that this is not when we squared up your bankroll to exactly $6k. That came the day I left. When we made it $6k, and then you asked for more so I gave you another $5k. I know exactly where you're confusing things, but every time I explain it you are later confused like I never explained it before.

You are thinking that since you lost $4,400 on the 25th of July that your bankroll went down to $6k - $4,400 = $1,600. This is not the case. The 24th, we squared up during the day. You had made $8,909 on your High Stakes ledger. Later that day you played and made another two sessions and won $4,145. The next day is when you lost $4,400. That is $400 over your stoploss, so instead of making you cover the $400, we combined your results from the previous day and put down a net total of -$255 on the 25th. We have this whole conversation in text, and I will post it if you'd like.
09-04-2013 , 08:21 PM
I am not insulting anyone

I am stating what I see

When you don't do something because it is difficult, you are being a coward.

For example, many people might say "pussy"

It's synonymous with coward but it is also slang, and its an insult in our culture and its incredibly rude to women.

I am not insulting anyone

If you are running or ignoring problems , ask yourself WHY

If the answer is "because its hard"

Then you are being cowardly.

That's it
09-04-2013 , 08:22 PM
Proof of my deposit chad?

I don't care if anything has my personal information on it

I do not believe anyone will steal from my busto ultimate account
09-04-2013 , 08:25 PM
explain what are the lies and what is the truth.

focus on each specific point. don't post comments about anyone's character. just focus on the facts. this is the most beneficial approach you can take
09-04-2013 , 08:27 PM
Also even if I owe this much

There is still 14 nights of 265 a night on fri and 365 on say or whatever it is

I never once said you could have those for free

In fact when you dropped my cut down it was because I wasn't doing your hotels anymore

I never, ever , EVER said you could have my hotels for free.

You couldn't get them on your own because you didn't grind enough

I had some of the sickest comps anyone had ever seen at borgata and its precisely because we had to pay you and borgata for rooms when we got there



Or do you disagree?

When did you drop my cut?


Lets just say I owe 11k for the purpose of this argument
09-04-2013 , 08:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dhcg86
kydd played on my ultimate account and dumper $3500

I had deposited $1k and ran it up cause omg poker is easy

I gave kydd my logins and he played under my screen name

I think it was PinkRhino or something

I shouldnt have done that and I justified what I was doing by saying it didnt matter that we were multi accounting or whatever it is because I wasnt going to play on ultimate anymore that week or whatever excuse I gave myself

was it against the rules? yes
did I know that? yes
does that make it wrong? yes
My numbers were off. You deposited $1,000, I ran $1,927 (or around that) to $3,350. Then I lost it later and paid you whatever I owed you. I paid you whatever I owed you in cash. I remember doing this, I don't remember the exact amounts of everything as it was well over a month ago. I have a hard time believing that if I didn't pay you that money, I wouldn't have
1. wrote down I owed someone money in my phone where I keep all those records and
2. You wouldn't have brought that up once before right now.

I don't remember all these details exactly like how much the numbers were. I deal with multiple horses all the time and they tell me different numbers. It all blends together, that's why I write stuff down and keep records and encourage them to do the same. When there is a dispute, I either usually give them the benefit of the doubt, or we split the difference as long as their dispute is reasonable.

I'm done with this discussion.
09-04-2013 , 08:34 PM
It's like he is on the same drugs Charlie sheen was on, with the coward and winning thing
09-04-2013 , 09:03 PM
I asked yesterday that we chill on personal attacks. This is a gentle, but final, reminder. Let's try to keep this as civil as possible, please.
09-04-2013 , 09:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dhcg86
The sad thing is I feel like crying,

But I can't because society sees that as "emotional"

And they don't understand it

So they fear it

And my eagerness to cry subsides. And the tears will not come. But the emotion still exists, so where does it go?


Into the bottle my friends, the bottle where we hide things


But eventually, it all comes out in some way or another
I wasn't going to post at all in this thread, but I will: If you want to cry, cry. Go lay in bed and cry.

I watched E:60 Tuesday night before going out to play poker. It was about an athlete who donated bone marrow ... eventually it went to an infant from the Ukraine. It was inspiring and heroic and I cried. Like a little girl. I couldn't stop until after the episode was over.

Cry. Maybe it will help get some of the negative toxins out of your body.
09-04-2013 , 09:23 PM
I meant cry as in like a few tears. I dont think I have any toxins in my body. Its why I have been so energetic and in tune with myself

I am only eating fruits veggies nuts water juice beans

its great

I could be wrong but didn't Chad say he has a text from me that confirmed I deposited $200 on Ultimate, but that he wouldnt post it because it had personal information?

can the mods check the edits please?

also Im not using coward as an insult but I see that it is not helping ANYTHING, so I will stop.

I brought this up before and it was a huge reason as to why I didnt have monies

do you remember?
09-04-2013 , 09:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dhcg86
I could be wrong but didn't Chad say he has a text from me that confirmed I deposited $200 on Ultimate, but that he wouldnt post it because it had personal information?
Yes, he said this. He then posted again saying he had the figures wrong, that you had deposited $1000, and run it up to $1927, and that he ran that amount up to $3500 at 5/10, then busted the account at 10/20.
09-04-2013 , 09:33 PM
ok Id like proof of this

I would like proof that he said this a few minutes ago

and then I would like proof from chad as to where the text message that he read is

and lastly, I would like to know how many of his messages have been edited but do not say edited

the last few are specifically important
09-04-2013 , 09:36 PM
Can anyone help to determine if Kydd has been displaying signs of someone who is a pathological liar
09-04-2013 , 10:11 PM
Although little has been written about pathological lying, one study found a prevalence of almost 1 in 1,000 repeat juvenile offenders. The average age of onset is 16 years, and its occurrence was found by the study to be equal in women and men.[3] Forty percent of cases reported central nervous system abnormality[3] (characterized by epilepsy, abnormal EEG findings, head trauma, or CNS infection).[citation needed]

The defining characteristics of pseudologia fantastica are:
The stories told are not entirely improbable and often have some element of truth. They are not a manifestation of delusion or some broader type of psychosis: upon confrontation, the teller can admit them to be untrue, even if unwillingly.
The fabricative tendency is long lasting; it is not provoked by the immediate situation or social pressure as much as it is an innate trait of the personality.
A definitely internal, not an external, motive for the behavior can be discerned clinically: e.g., long-lasting extortion or habitual spousal battery might cause a person to lie repeatedly, without the lying being a pathological symptom.[2]
The stories told tend toward presenting the liar favorably. For example, the person might be presented as being fantastically brave, knowing or being related to many famous people.


Pseudologia fantastica may also present as false memory syndrome, where the sufferer genuinely believes that fictitious events have taken place, regardless that these events are fantasies. The sufferer may believe that he or she has committed superhuman acts of altruism and love or has committed equally grandiose acts of diabolical evil, for which the sufferer must atone, or has already atoned for in her/his fantasies.


Lying is the act of both knowingly and intentionally/willfully making a false statement.[4] Most people do so out of fear.[5] Pathological lying is considered a mental illness, because it takes over rational judgment and progresses into the fantasy world and back.[6]
Excessive lying is a common symptom of several mental illnesses. For instance people who suffer from antisocial personality disorder use lying to benefit from others. Some individuals with borderline personality disorder lie for attention by claiming they’ve been treated poorly (though it is not diagnostic).[7] Pathological lying, on the other hand, can be described as an addiction to lying. It is when an individual consistently lies for no personal gain. The lies are commonly transparent and often seem rather pointless.[8]
There are many consequences of being a pathological liar. Due to lack of trust, most pathological liars' relationships and friendships fail. If the disease continues to progress, lying could become so severe as to cause legal problems, including but not limited to fraud.[9]
Psychotherapy appears to be one of the only methods to treat a person suffering from pathological lying. No research has been performed regarding the use of pharmaceutical medication to treat pathological liars.[9] Some research suggests that certain people may have a “predisposition to lying”.[10]
Pathological lying is a complex phenomenon, differing from other mental illnesses. It has many life-changing consequences for those who must live with the illness. Currently, there is not enough research in the area of pathological lying to guarantee a cure.[9]

proven lies

he said he had 35k in checking and that if he ever went broke he just withdraw it from the ATM and that he had done this before

net worth

said he didn't cheat, but did

said he had a text showing that I deposited $200, but now erased saying that


suspicions

chad doesnt have real results
chad doesnt have $150k
chad has been stealing money from me
chad has been lying about almost everything poker related
chad has a powerpoint that he copied or stole from someone
chad is a pathological liar

Things chad told me

he made deliberately swallowed glass and is suing Arizona Ice tea on the premise that it was accidental and that they are liable

he told alot of people that he met channing tatum and they played poker, but he confided in me that he ran up to him at the cage and got a pic.

he hasnt spoken to his brother in years
he hasnt he does not speak to his farther
he has no close friends
09-04-2013 , 10:13 PM
Everyone displays signs of pathological lying. Kydd has not particularly shown himself to be sociopathic or psychopathic at all. Your evidence of his lying so far is inadequate in showing him as a pathological liar. Everyone lies and misleads in some way or other.

A lot of those statements of yours don't actually prove cheating. Everyone here basically said that sharing information via text is not automatically cheating, it's just borderline shady, and yet you act as if that's proof.

Lying about winrates and money owned? **** even Durrrrr and Ivey and co clearly misleads people in these matters ALL THE TIME. My friend made a comment, a general rule of thumb, assume people in poker have 1/3 the money they appear to have.

Chad stealing money from you is NOT YET PROVEN so we cannot use that as judgement. Obviously when you can prove it it'd make your position look much stronger.

Stealing... a powerpoint? Honestly who cares. You realize that technically streaming shows online is "stealing" too right?

The Arizona ice tea thing I don't know what to make fun of, but personally I put lying to corporations differently from lying to cheat individuals.

As a result out of this list nothing really stands out to convince me that Kydd is a bad person.

That stuff about his brother of father or close friends? Doesn't mean he has to be a bad person, just because you're really good at making friends Dane does not make someone who doesn't a bad person.

Last edited by Sol Reader; 09-04-2013 at 10:19 PM.
09-04-2013 , 10:42 PM
"So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie. Me, I don't have that problem. Me, I always tell the truth. Even when I lie."

The words of Tony Montana. Wise man. Died with a nose full of coke and a belly full of bullets. Very sad.

      
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