Microstakes homegame that's pretty loose, relatively little 3bets preflop.
Villain 1 (the more relevant one), is a loose, splashy maniac, but he also sometimes comes back to reason, very unpredictable.
Villain 2 is a pretty good, aggressive player.

0.02€/0.04€ NL (6 handed)
SB Hero (~10€/250bb)
BB V1 (~8,40€/210bb)
HJ V2(~8€/200bb)

I'll go in BBs from now to make things simpler.


Hero is dealt Q♥️T♥️

UTG folds, V2 raises to 6bb in HJ, CO folds, BN folds, Hero 3bets to 20.5bb in SB, V1 calls 20.5bb from SB, V2 calls 20.5bb from HJ


Flop (Pot: 61.5bb @190bb eff.) K♦️T♦️4♣️
H checks, V1 checks, V2 checks


Turn (Pot: 61.5bb @190bb eff.) 5♠️
H checks, V1 bets 21bb, V2 raises to 65bb, H calls, V1 calls

(I know that V2 will be raising very light here to exploit V1 who can still have anything after his turn bet, so I call figuring I'll be good enough times)

River (Pot: 256.5bb @130bb eff.) K♠️
H checks, V1 is all-in for ~130bb (half pot), V2 folds quickly, what do we do here?

Pre flop are you in SB or is V1? If you are OOP 3bet bigger. 4x is the lowest I would ever go from out of position and you should probably go even bigger because you are so deep. Calling might be more reasonable as well, especially if you aren’t going to get folds very often.

I don’t see how you could possibly cold call turn facing a bet and a raise with second pair. Think you have to fold there.

As played, I guess call river since the bet is half pot and this is one of the better rivers? Hard for V1 to be bluffing here but you seem to have a solid read on his play style.

I don't understand any street.

3 bet pre with QT from the SB?

Check the flop?

Overcall a raise on the turn with 2nd pair, Q-kicker with no draw?

River? I don't know. Is he bluffing? You've got a bluff catcher and shoveled a bunch of money into the pot thinking he was bluffing.

I doubt it's a bluff considering he A) raised the turn on a dangerous board & B) shoved river after being called twice on the turn. What do we think he's bluffing with 65dd, 76dd?

I don't get why we are 3-betting preflop and cold calling a bet and raise on the turn?

Can you explain why you 3-bet QTs preflop, and then why you checked the flop?

Or more generally, can you explain what your plan was at each street with this hand?

Go to 30 bigs oop pre.

X or half pot otf

Bet half pot ott, ap fold.

Fold river, bb would have bet flop if he was bluffing

Calling the turn is beyond bad, even though everyone started the hand with only about 8 bucks/e's.

By far the biggest problem is calling the turn raise.

River I think is a fold, villain was raised OTT with a cold caller coming along for the ride and is shoving anyway OOP to the raiser. Should be either pure air but in a situation where he has little fold equity or he has trips good kicker+.

It's ~8€ ... this might be super relevant because nobody cares about the money? Also suspicious of a label of "pretty good" on any player.


If I 3bet QTs I'm 100% cbetting KdTd4, and probably shoving turn if called by one.

On turn I've no idea what my range for 3bet pre, x flop, x turn, cold call a bet+raise. Having a Q does suck for QJs hands you want him to have ... but you do unblock diamonds. Villain probably has no idea what your range is either, and it kind of looks polarized to like KK or maybe nut flush draws that don't want to bet? That _maybe_ makes him want to fire the river with everything that can't beat A high, esp. when the K hits.

River is whatever, it's not like he "should" take this line with Kx anyway, apart from maybe AK, so he either has a draw or a KT/55/44. In theory he shouldn't have even KTs pre. and it's hard to hit sets. Of course it's high fives all around if he decided to "bluff" AT/JJ here.