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01-28-2024 , 08:56 AM
1/1. No rake, no promotions. In this game, opening bets started at five. After an orbit, they went to 6. Before this hand, two people opened to 15.

V1 (850): Hero has played with him for 20 years. When he goes on tilt, he calls with everything. When not on tilt, like now, he calls large bets wide. He bets his good hands. Bluffs about 20 percent. He loses $20,000 on gambling per year. Tilt arrives unexpectedly.

V2 (730): Deep-thinking V2 plays too many, calls wide, wins his hands on bluffs against V3.

V3 (covers): Whale who came to loose $3,000. Playing 870, 46o, A4o, etc. with V2.

Hero (780): TAG. When hero played with V2 and V3 one decade ago, he was a nit. Hero still plays with V1 a few times per year.

OTTH

V1 in the UTG opens to 15. V1 and 2 call. Hero with AKo in the SB?
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01-28-2024 , 09:27 AM
100$
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01-28-2024 , 10:44 AM
Go big. $100 seems fine. Let V’s who’ll make mistakes pre makes those mistakes.
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01-28-2024 , 10:54 AM
$100 sounds good
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01-28-2024 , 12:54 PM
I corrected the typos in the first actions. Here’s the corrections and the next inflection point

V1 in the UTG opens to 15. V2 and V3 call. Hero with AdKc in the SB?

Hero bets 120. V1 calls. V2 and V3 fold.

Flop (270): 8d8h3h

Hero?

Last edited by adonson; 01-28-2024 at 01:19 PM.
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01-28-2024 , 12:56 PM
Bets $80
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01-28-2024 , 01:58 PM
I agree with the others, going big is fine. I would have gone 90-100. Are you folding to a jam? What if V1 makes it 250?

I'm not excited by AK on 883 OOP against a loose cannon but let's not despair yet. I'd go small to buy a card cheaply (hopefully), there are cards you can barrel and the implied odds of hitting an Ace or King may be good. Agree that 80 feels good, 70 if it doesn't induce a raise.
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01-28-2024 , 02:14 PM
Pre I would go 90-100.

Flop I think check or bet are fine. Betting 1/3 probably outperforms, although this is probably a half pot or larger or check spot since neither of you should have a lot of 8x in their range. If you check here you need to check a lot of strong hands like overpairs mainly planning to check raise. Your hand is okay to check raise also.

Overall 33% pot is probably the play.
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01-28-2024 , 02:39 PM
PRE - 3B'ing to $90 would seem "standard", but I could see going slightly larger in this game, against these V's, with these stack depths, so $100-$110 seems fine. $120 feels a little large, but not crazy.

FLOP - Assuming V is 4B'ing QQ+ pre, we're worried about 99-JJ, 33, and 8x? I'd think all the 99+ in our range would want to bet for value and protection, and with no heart in our hand, it seems like we could triple-barrel on a non-heart runout. I'd probably bet 1/3 to 40% pot, and look to over-bet a brick turn.
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01-28-2024 , 08:01 PM
$90-100 pre

$75-90

pretty standard thus far
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01-28-2024 , 10:31 PM
I like your size. Bet 1/3 and don't fold.
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01-29-2024 , 11:14 AM
The rest of the hand. I'll give partial results in 24 hours.

V1 in the UTG opens to 15. V2 and V3 call. Hero with AdKc in the SB?

Hero bets 120. V1 calls. V2 and V3 fold.

Flop (270): 8d8h3h

Hero? Hero thinks, if I check I'm giving up on the hand, and checks. V bets 140. Hero folds.
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01-29-2024 , 11:16 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Spyutastic
Bet 1/3 and don't fold.
Ooops.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mlark
Flop I think check or bet are fine. Betting 1/3 probably outperforms.
This gives me a little comfort.
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01-29-2024 , 11:39 AM
adonson since you've known him for so long, how does he respond to cbets, does he call them light or is he fit or fold?

If it's someone I don't know I would cbet around 80 or so. If he calls cbets wide even in 3bet pots, I would cbet smaller then hopefully be able to bet bigger ott (or give up depending on the card). I don't really like checking here because it would look exactly like AK and he might lead out ott for 50 bucks with pockets 4's and we would probably have to fold.
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01-29-2024 , 12:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by adonson
V1 in the UTG opens to 15. V1 and 2 call. Hero with AKo in the SB?

You've been playing for a decade and you seriously have no idea of what to do in this spot? That doesn't seem possible.
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01-29-2024 , 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by adonson
Ooops.



This gives me a little comfort.
Villain's read that OP is a nit is confirmed.
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01-29-2024 , 01:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by adonson
The rest of the hand. I'll give partial results in 24 hours.

V1 in the UTG opens to 15. V2 and V3 call. Hero with AdKc in the SB?

Hero bets 120. V1 calls. V2 and V3 fold.

Flop (270): 8d8h3h

Hero? Hero thinks, if I check I'm giving up on the hand, and checks. V bets 140. Hero folds.
Check is fine if you want to go for a CR.
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01-29-2024 , 02:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 009285832
You've been playing for a decade and you seriously have no idea of what to do in this spot? That doesn't seem possible.
This forum isn't about knowing what to do. It's about discussing hands and learning from them, not matter if they are complicated or simple, and getting different perspectives. Obviously you know nothing about strat forums, so please don't post until you learn a little about what do in this spot.

OP: Pre is good, flop is a bet or a check/call. Don't fold (lol).
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01-29-2024 , 03:02 PM
Thanks, everyone, for humiliating me once again on 2+2!

It was a wild game, hard to pay attention because everyone was talking at the same time, people were splashing the pot, a dozen misdeals and above all a 1/1 game that played like 2/5 with no rake, no one left for eight hours, the stacks just got bigger, people rolling blunts of weed in cigar leaves.

So I ****ed up this hand but made it up in others. I’d like to see the trolls operate under the chaos and the secondary smoke intoxication.

Last edited by adonson; 01-29-2024 at 03:09 PM.
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01-29-2024 , 04:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Javanewt
This forum isn't about knowing what to do. It's about discussing hands and learning from them, not matter if they are complicated or simple, and getting different perspectives. Obviously you know nothing about strat forums, so please don't post until you learn a little about what do in this spot.



OP: Pre is good, flop is a bet or a check/call. Don't fold (lol).
Yeah I think on the flop you can really do anything except check fold.
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01-29-2024 , 04:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by adonson
Thanks, everyone, for humiliating me once again on 2+2!

It was a wild game, hard to pay attention because everyone was talking at the same time, people were splashing the pot, a dozen misdeals and above all a 1/1 game that played like 2/5 with no rake, no one left for eight hours, the stacks just got bigger, people rolling blunts of weed in cigar leaves.

So I ****ed up this hand but made it up in others. I’d like to see the trolls operate under the chaos and the secondary smoke intoxication.
Yeah I can't handle smoke. I played in a crappy home game my friend took me to where everyone was smoking at the table. I left after one orbit. Never again.
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01-29-2024 , 05:26 PM
I just stoved it. It's pretty bad:

Board: 8h8c2h
44.47% QQ-77, A8s+, KTs+, QTs+, JTs, AJo+, KQo
55.53% AdKc
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01-29-2024 , 05:30 PM
A lesser error: Preflop, a bet smaller than 120 has the advantage getting value from V1 and V2 without folding out the whale V3.
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01-29-2024 , 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 009285832
You've been playing for a decade.
I've played for almost five decades, 48 years exactly. I started playing poker at 7. Would you believe me if I told you, my game has improved? I post my worst-played hands on this forum because it makes me accountable and entertains the readers.

Last edited by adonson; 01-29-2024 at 05:53 PM.
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01-29-2024 , 06:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by adonson
I've played for almost five decades, 48 years exactly. I started playing poker at 7. Would you believe me if I told you, my game has improved? I post my worst-played hands on this forum because it makes me accountable and entertains the readers.
Cool, we are the same age -- I'll be 56 in March (celebrating in Vegas!).

As to the second-hand smoke: I once ate 10 Skittles at a poker game before I realized they were "enhanced." 200 mg in 10 minutes. I'm a 130 lb 55 yr-old woman who doesn't do anything harder than the occasional margarita. It was quite the poker game. I've never concentrated so hard in my life at poker. I've never been so quiet at the table. Broke even. Drove home five hours later and kept my husband on the phone the whole way. Turns out you drive much more slowly and carefully...
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