At my local casino. I have about 2100 in front of me, I'm in the Big Blind.

AK

folds around to cut off who is a very TAG regular who I have some history with and he opens to 15 (1750 starting stack). Fish on the button calls, sb folds, I make it 65 guy who opens calls and button folds.

Flops is 743
I bet 75, he raises 200, I call

At this point I think he's raising me with a flush draw or complete air, it's pretty hard for him to actually have a value hand here that's not a set. sets are hard to make.

Turn is 3
I check he bets 300, and still having him on a draw I decide to call. Also, by me calling, he should know that I should have a pretty large overpair here.

River is 3
I check river, He goes all in for 1185, ????

What is your own image and 3-betting range in this spot? He could be value raising less than sets on the flop given the right circumstances. (He could also be bluff raising better, perhaps 55 and 66).

I'm not sure about the flop bet. But if you do bet, bet larger. I don't hate the flop call as your hand can be good sometimes, it should look very strong (making him give up and letting you check down the best hand), and you have a backdoor flush draw. It's a pretty cheap bluff for him if you only continue with strong hands. (Depends on your squeezing range also).

For the same reasons I fold the turn.

The river is ugly since everyone knows no-one folds boats. So this is kinda read dependant, if he's good enough to be at the next level and continue with his air even the trips hit, you should call.

Nevertheless, I doubt this and would prolly fold the river. And I would also very well be here on the river and call the turn just as you did.

I'd assume the villain to have a set of 7's or 4's very often after the river bet.

My image is pretty tight in general. He knows that I'm probably not 3betting him light in this spot, but am capable of it.

I just find it very hard for him to actually have me beat on this run out/how he played.
I don't think he raises the flop with anything good (that's not a set). semi bluff hands like 55/66 don't jam the river.

I tanked for about 5 minutes and folded. Villian shows the table ATo

everything here, and i dont know how you call turn and get confused on the river. youre leveling yourself at that point. river is a great card because his range is already polarized before that, so if you had a read to call turn river changes little.

Yeah river changes little before the villain still bets it...

he didnt just bet it, he jammed it. a lot of people at the casinos i go to do that kind of bs when they know theyre bluffing or hoping someone doesnt call for a split. its kind of a sick spot imo but as i was saying, if youre calling turn then river card, at least if i were in that spot, would actually make me call more if he jams.

so to be clear on my thoughts: turn in a vacuum is a fold for me. if youre calling turn, his action on that particular river card makes me want to call a lot in these spots. apologies for not being clear.

I'm struggling with the turn play based on your read. I think the read is correct, but why are we taking this line if we think he's on a draw and yet we are unwilling to make the river call? Would a $700 river bet have made you feel better about calling?

I would also argue that very TAG live regs tend to routinely get into these deep river shove spots with air, usually they get called by a huge fish or some drunk guy.

Based on your read on the flop and turn, I would prefer you c/r the turn and close out the hand right there more often than not, it's far less passive than a turn c/c without a firm commitment to call a brick river card.

The jam is just about PSB. Thinking that "I called the turn so I have to call the river" is kinda bad. When we call the turn we are basically telling villain we really do have something (a big pair) and we are probably not folding. And to this particular river card he has to think we are not folding, thus, I think the fold is much better play than calling.

I also think that the turn call isn't that bad (I won't argue about if folding is more +ev, probably). At that point we still are ahead a good portion of villain's range, and check calling has all the benefits pointed out above that we should get nice check/check at the river most of the time.

i never insinuated that if "I called the turn so I have to call the river." that is obviously really bad thinking and youre simplifying my post (although my post was admittedly very simple). i specifically noted in my post that particular river card, followed by that particular action, given our action on the turn, makes me lean towards a call. what river cards would make you call a jam more, given action and op's reads? or fold more? because you say this:

if turn call isn't bad, then i think the 3 is an incredibly good card for us because the hand is super polarized now based off op's reads. your first post had a lot of similar thinking to mine, except your conclusion was a fold, and again i dont think youre wrong in any way. i just happen to believe, given my own and not always-applicable experience with live regs and people i've played against, that std villains without the cajones to pull some sort of really sick thin shove would have air enough that we should call.

Leveling yourself is correct. Fold dude. Nothing you can beat or he will lay down here.

Myself personally, my cards were in the muck after getting raised on the flop.

If you really trust your reads, this is an instacall.

blah this got moved! shame because the game plays like a 5/10 game.