I had 2 hands last night where I 3b AKs to get 4b. I'm use to playing at $1/2 or shallow $2/5 games where 4betting = AA/KK. I'm not sure if that applies to a super deep $2/5 game with frequent straddles.

Table is loose aggressive. Table is super deep, (I'm one of the short stacks with ~$1000), a few villains are showing up in opened and 3b pots with hands like 53o 68o etc.

My image is somewhere between nit and TAG. I open/cbet 10%/75% but i have been folding to raises 80%+. I recently showed a hand where I posted in the CO with 26o and stabbed a 4-way AdA9d board on the flop/turn. It came runner runner diamond and I hit a 6 high flush. Villain bet pot, I called, and he showed trips aces and started berating my loose aggressive play.

V1 is sitting with $2000. He is LAG, skilled, possibly pro. He opens a lot of hands, and I've 3bet squeezed him with SCs and 3b the top of my range. Once he saw me show up with J7ss at showdown when I 3b squeezed him in a good spot. He has been raising with V2 on the BB (when I'm the btn) to isolate about 5 of the last 10 orbits. No other players are aware of our dynamic at the table.

V2 is the table fish. He is an aggro fish. He has not 4bet all session, but has c/r'ed the turn with middle pair and a gutshot. Calls down super light, fast plays draws, bets medium strength hands when hes only getting called by better, overvalues TPTK, etc. He's sitting with $3000.

Hand1:

Straddle on, folds to V1 in MP who opens to $50, CO calls, hero is on btn with AKss and raises to $202, SB folds, V2 (bb) tanks then raises to $525, hero ?

Hand2:

1 limper in MP, CO (unknown) raises to $25, V2 calls (btn), hero (sb) raises to $125, CO raises to $300, V2 folds, hero?


Is it even worth 3betting AKs in these spots? In hand1 if I flat my SPR is going to be 4-5 going to the flop. I'm probably going to stack a weaker king or ace, and it gives me the perfect stack size to c/r a flush draw

In hand2, I'm oop and am pretty much lost against CO when I whiff the flop as I have no info on his opening range, agg factor, or cont bet %.

I think hand 1 is a pretty clear fold as you have been cold 4bet, by someone that hasn't 4b yet. Dont be fooled by the tank beforehand, he has kk/aa

Hand 2 I think I sigh fold as well being deep and oop

hand 2 prolly looking for a read against an unknown. more likely to fold here but probably sigh and get it in cuz we're chopping so often.

hand 1 get it in cuz u onlyhave 1k stack and there's already 500 in the middle. 800 behind w/ 500 in the middle i don't think folding AKs is really good against said villain even tho he hasn't 4 bet yet. He could be spewing w/ AQs as well as QQ or JJ or TT

Hand 1: I'd probably fold without history. Randoms don't usually cold 4-bet without AA or KK unless you've been 3 betting a lot.

Hand 2: I ship. CO vs. BB ranges tend to be wider than normal, so I'd expect to be +EV shipping. You're not really that deep (relatively speaking) despite being 200 BB deep. When open raises are 5x to 10x as shown above, it's almost the equivalent of 100 BB deep in an online game. I know people don't play it exactly like that, but it's not far off in terms of play-ability. Plus it's a sqeezed pot, so the SPR is much smaller.

i dont know what casino lets you raise in $2 increments at 2/5 most only let you do $5 increments. with that being said, just make it 200 or 205 because it slows the game down and its just stupid

Its not in $US, I'm doing a rough conversion.