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Deep 1/3 pot - V and H perspectives Deep 1/3 pot - V and H perspectives

08-12-2022 , 01:37 PM
1/3 1100 eff

Ep opens to 15. Middle aged guy who is raising 30-35% of hands. Tag profile, cbets too much but plays kinda fit or fold after. I have 3bet him aggressively the last few orbits and took it down every time pre or post. He’s playing around 250 total.

I call in HJ with KTss. CO and BU are weak and passive and I don’t think I will get credit given I’ve 3bet like 4 times in 3 orbits.

Bu white dude in 60s makes it 45. He’s snappy with all his actions. Passive pre but will make weird donks in weird spots post. Covers.

Ep contemplates for a bit and calls. I call. Is this hand better to call with heads up vs 3 ways and shallow or deep?


Flop: KT2r (150)

Xx Bu snap bets 100, ep calls, I make it 275, Bu snap shoves 1050 total. Ep calls for the remaining 100, I count my stack and call but don’t love it.
He shows AA and my top two holds.
Question is what do we do here if we are Bu and face this action post this deep or even deeper? Obviously we are never raising but do we just fold facing this small raise?
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08-12-2022 , 01:50 PM
Why did you call pre? Were you afraid he might 4bet you then?

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Originally Posted by Double K
Ep contemplates for a bit and calls. I call. Is this hand better to call with heads up vs 3 ways and shallow or deep?
It's better to call with more players here rather than less. Being deep is over rated, you often don't get good odds to continue anyway unless you take a more creative line. Multiway is where you wanna play it for the most part when you're flatting a raise.

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Originally Posted by Double K
what do we do here if we are Bu and face this action post this deep or even deeper? Obviously we are never raising but do we just fold facing this small raise?
He should of raised more pre, and post flop he put you on AK, he over played it though of course. He had the ability to control the pot but he's not even thinking along those lines, in his head he's got the nuts.
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08-12-2022 , 03:20 PM
What has BTN got on such a dry board to shove? Unless something funky is going on BTN has KK, TT, AA or AK. That's it.

KK or TT could raise but AA or AK can't sensibly. KK and TT aren't all that scared of anything either. For that reason I wouldn't raise at all as BTN with anything. It also means that your call of his shove has to be considered carefully. The thing in your favour is that 22 is very unlikely, KK and TT only have 1 combo each and people often overplay AA post flop.

Your c/r on the flop is small. Pot is $625 and it is $175 for them to call.

Should BTN call your raise? I wouldn't, any kind of c/r multiway is scary as hell. That small one has me running for the hills. Is that GTO? No. Is it exploitable? yes. Would it serve you well 99% of the time? Yes. I would fold it right there. However, online or vs very good opponents I would call but not raise.
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