Was playing at a $1/$2 table at a casino in sydney. The game was very weak with people getting stacked left and right holding things like TP with no kicker. So I was thinking of ways to maximise profit by making some very unconventional plays, here's one;

Hero is dealt 1010 and has about $210.
Villain is a youngish white male who has about $150 at the start of the hand.
After about a hour of playing i felt the villain was very spewy, calling most any PFR and folding almost any flop that he missed. Ive seen him lose his whole stack of $200 holding A9 on a board of 942 to some1's shove with bottom 2pair. Basically a dream calling station who was suspect of any move made on a draw heavy flop.

Villain limps from UTG+1, 2 limpers, hero raises to $15 (standard opening rause for some reason, anything lets gets 6-7callers). Villain calls, every1 else is out (not surprising as i've been quite nitty and have been needled often for it). Villaind range is so wide i cant really put him on anything specific.

Flop (pot $37): 234

Villain checks to me. This is where I make a crazy crazy play that i will try to explain. I decided that villain most likely has a small pair, thats smaller than mine (he would have 3bet preflop) and not a set on that flop (i would expect him to lead into me with a small baiting raise, putting me on an overpair).
Given his propensity to stack off with TPTK and his perception of any overpair on the flop as the nuts, i decided to overbet shove for remaining stack, repping something like a goofy bluff or AK.
Given the circumstances is this a ******ed play?
A certain poster on these forums (papagavin) was at the same table, amd after the hand when i told him abt the hand, he berated me for ages abt it and told me that me sitting at a card table is just ******ed and that i should just stop playing. Im just a fish trying to learn the game

If you make the assumption correctly that he has a small pair but not a set, the play is awesome. The problem, however, is that him checking to you OTF isnt enough information to make this determination.

A lot of the time he'll have air, and will fold.

Some of the time he'll have a set, and will have checked to let you cbet.

And some of the time he'll have a worse hand than yours that he's prepared to stack off with, cos he's a calling station.

Even against a massive calling station, i just dont think the times he stacks off to you outweight the times you get stacked, or you end the hand right there without winning any more $$$. Is he capable of thinking on the level that your overshove is usually a semibluff?

I read the title and this only.

Getting creative in 1/2 is generally a bad idea.

If your playing a weak 1/2 table when people are getting stacked with TPWK there is no reason you should be playing unconventionally!!! ABC TAG is the best way to win at a loose 1/2 table.

Yes, ABC TAG works great, but not in extracting max value. The kinds of fish we get in sydney are the kind who are very passive, so you have to be the aggressor and makr big bets to make money from hand over hand situations.

Basically looking for ways to get all the money in the middle by repping a bluff when really the villain is 5% to win with 2 outs

why, exactly, am i mentioned / taken way out of context here?

that said this is just one of many spots where you value cut yourself. playing <5 hands in 4 hours, revealing through table talk that all of them were QQ+/AK while talking about how unlucky you are and how tight you play pretty much guarantee to anyone that you aren't bluffing here.

Sure, he might put you on a bluff with overs, but that is extremely unlikely (impossible) for you to be doing to anyone who is thinking on any level.

aside from that, even if this is a good play, what makes it better than a c-bet, which is far less suspicious even with your image. he may well c/r to protect his hand, and i doubt he is folding an overpair to multiple barrels regardless, especially once he is invested for more than $15, and the pot escalates to like $100 from a standard c-bet/call.

this play reminds me of movies where the villain stops to tell everyone how clever he is and lets them get away in the meantime.

btw, i was clearly kidding when i was telling you that you were terrible.

^ lol so true, i reckon OP shouldn't be talking about his hands at the table imo

ummmm retarted imo lol

Why are u posting when we have an exam tomorrow?

Maybe u forgot, but this is the purple shirted dude with the gold chain. He c/c'ed to a showdown with AA on like THE safest board after 3betting preflop. It was obvious he had no clue what he was doing. So i felt like it was the only way to play for stacks given his unconventional lines with PPs.

But yeah, i have alot of live tells that, if u were a true bro, would have helped me stamp out

too late to edit, but i also think this section

is extremely ******ed. is there any logic behind these assumptions, or is it just some gut feeling (read: this is what i hope he has, so i'm just going to play as if it his entire range)

Pretty much. So in this instance it makes for a very fishy/scrub play. But i was asking (specifically to ppl who know these tables and the type of friday-night-out fish) if i can make this play with something AA.

Sometimes, you make me very sad.

to sum it up, its just incredibly spewey.

Lol! Sorry Daniel, but papagavin wins the thread.

Papagavin owns me hes actually a very mean guy irl.

He's grumpy on here too.

ROFL
jesus christ i remember this hand
you shoved pre flop from the CO and he snapped from the SB with 77, and you only had $65ish

what have you been smoking these past 2 weeks? just study for your exam man, sheesh LOL

i specifically remember being like WTF why and you were like "dude i knew noone had a better hand than me and i didnt want anyone to suck out and i knew he would call me with a worse hand", to which I was like "he was the sb, he hadn't even looked"

edit: @kydd, i cured my grumpiness by not reading anything but threads from posters i recognise, was clocking up too many infractions with my extremely funny sarcastic comments (take a joke guys ffs dont report me to venice )

Clearly you've been smoking pot. That was a totally different hand with an old ****** who was sooo insane. Also my open-shove was very justified. Whats my line after i raise standard, get flatted, see overcards on flop. Cos the last time i had TT and i played it that way ended with me being forced to call a shove with one overcard where i knew i was beat.

@kdd: he's also the harshest critiquer of bad play sometimes i secretly cry in a corner after severe tongue-lashings for my disgusting play

top up then, you shouldn't need to be opening for 65 in the first place

id go 15-20/shove flop and ensure getting value regardless

and i dont remember this OP hand at all tbh then, are you sure it wasn't while i was away from the table? i remember both times i left i came back to find you doubled up...

Oh damn, you went away with ur buddy in a suit during this one. Lol, i think the villain in question stacked off like 3 times and quit in the 15mins you were gone

Villain only has $135 left and the pot is already $37 on the flop. If he has a middling overpair, we'll have no problem getting all his money in over multiple streets. There is no reason to get creative here.

Could you two get a room?

TTHRIC.