I lurke here alot just decided to post these hands to see what you guys think!

I have been playing NL400 for about a month but since I dont put in alot of hands I am just starting to figure the game out (I think)

I run differently as the table permits (19/14 - 13/10) but average 16/12 and do dumbs**t all the time postflop, so most people shouldnt have a dead on read on me.

here is hand 1:

villan 22/20/4 in a couple of hundred hands, seems decent enough... no real history besides geting AA vs KK AIPF few hands back on another table



Full Tilt Poker $2/$4 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
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UTG+2: $80.00
MP1: $416.00
MP2: $961.10
CO: $377.20
BTN: $149.30
Hero (SB): $486.10
BB: $518.10
UTG: $183.50
UTG+1: $365.40

Pre Flop: Hero is SB with T J
3 folds, MP1 raises to $16, 3 folds, Hero calls $14, 1 fold

Flop: ($36.00) 8 Q 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets $28, Hero calls $28

Turn: ($92.00) K (2 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets $66, Hero raises to $222?


Hand 2: disclaimer if you get it AI w/KK's everytime go to hand 3

BTN is 16/7/2 with 1.5 3B% over 600 hands no crazy 3bet history
BB is 13/10/3 with 4.5 3B% some light 3B history but as a note I have he is not overly aggressive in 3bet pots fwiw

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UTG+2: $400.00
MP1: $703.40
MP2: $306.00
Hero (CO): $415.00
BTN: $797.30
SB: $510.50
BB: $400.00
UTG: $406.00
UTG+1: $410.00

Pre Flop: Hero is CO with K K
5 folds, Hero raises to $14, BTN raises to $40, 1 fold, BB raises to $120, Hero calls $106, BTN calls $80

Flop: ($362.00) T 3 8 (3 players)
BB bets $280 all in,

obv I call to get it all on a low flop but I dont know it doesnt feel right, knowing that bb knows btn is VERYYYYYY tight and me cold calling such a large amount of my stack is kind of sending the message I am not folding but...........isnt this AA like always? and less than 20% of the time QQs or JJ and rarely ever a bluff given BTN's range?


hand 3:

I think this is standard but wth

villan is 12.5/7/5 3bet 2.5 over 700 hands

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CO: $400.00
Hero (BTN): $434.20
SB: $160.10
BB: $125.60
UTG: $1169.30
UTG+1: $400.00
MP1: $400.00
MP2: $79.50

Pre Flop: Hero is BTN with J J
2 folds, MP1 raises to $18, 1 fold, CO calls $18, Hero raises to $64, 3 folds, CO calls $46

Flop: ($152.00) 4 7 T (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $120, CO raises to $336 all in, Hero calls $216

Turn: ($824.00) 7

River: ($824.00) 9

ok thats it for now I am losing my pants so help me asap or dont if you figured who I am (if you do, dont out me)

hand 1:
seems good to me

hand 2:
just get in.please.

hand 3:
I fold to flop raise because I don´t see a hand which we beat.
sry for bad english btw^^

FWIW i love the raise in the first hand definitely a nice play, you have a bucket full of outs and its likely he has only 1 pair why let a brick peel off and make it easy for him?
second hand i'm calling the flop his range is definitely not just AA imo but some may disagree your getting well over 2-1 on the call i think it is a insta-snap-call
3rd hand i reckon is a standard fold i mean seriously what can you beat? yeah you can coin flip with a few picture flush draws but thats about it. i'd be interested to see the results from that hand especially i figure he has two overs and a flush draw or QQ, hence my choice would be to fold, for your sake i hope he had a flush draw
fwiw i am also a 2/4 player on FT and yeah maybe i know who you are ;-)

allin all 3 times

people that say fold hand 3, just to make sure you guys see this the CO smooth called MP1's preflop raise. and MP1 folded preflop when I 3betted.

and sparky you arent one of the villans on one of these are you?

will post results in a few hours

1: i raise flop most of the time, but if i don't, then i play it the way u played it.
2: snap
3: snap

no i don't think i was, just you have a similar name on here to someone who plays 2/4 FT. i just would like to know what everyone who is saying 3 is a snap call thinks the other guy has? i agree its not a fod 100% of the time and is read dependant more than the others i think but still what to J's beat on that board withthat action? just my opinion but nobody has explained why 3 is a snap call, and i just can't see it. what are the results?

FWIW i reckon hand 3 he had AQ hearts or QQ

I think its a call because its usually overs with flush draw and we are getting good odds with so much in the middle

and results

hand 1. villan timed down folded
hand 2. I folded BTN called BB showed AA BTN had QQs
hand 3: I called villan had QQ

i think QQ against a alayer with tose stats is more likely than him shipping the flush draw, without any knowledge of him shipping flush draws n the flop i would lean to QQ and fold, t really felt like he wanted to see a no A no K flop before he went with it this time, and i think calling that amount preflop s usually a pair and not AQsooted. i reay think last one was an easy lay down.
hand two i think its just one of those spots its def AA sometimes but what can you do? realy tough fold imo.
nice collcetion of hands, still shocked how many people would snap call with J's tho, i think i mite be opening up and editing some players ranges lol!!

I havent read anything but the 3 HHs so im sorry if i dont know the specifics of each hand but:

Hand 1: i lead out and 3bet shove over a raise, if he calls then it depends on what turn card comes

Hand 2: you have to call now, if you want to fold you shouldve folded pf

Hand 3: std. it looks like CO posted, then called a raise, then called a 3bet....he's a monkey which makes an overpair the nuts.

dont you think playing it like I did in hand 1 gets more money out of him since he really could have any 2cards here and think a scare card like K is good enough for a double barrel!

and would you fold KK pre in that situation in hand 2?

We want him to fold in hand 1 cuz we have about 40-45% equity, bet/3betting gives us the greatest chance of him folding cuz we get the last raise in. Check/raise/call shove also gets the whole stack in but this time we have no fold equity. By taking the line hero did we're now trying to get our money in with 30% equity, not to mention villian might check back the turn and now we brick the river and have to fold.

In hand 2 i probably wouldnt fold KK pre. But it seems like the OP wanted to fold on the flop. And theres no reason to, the flop didnt change villians hand stregnth. We are still behind AA, and we're still ahead of AK, QQ. So if hero wants to fold, he should do it pre. But i wouldnt do it on either street.

the flop itself didn't change his range but the fact that he shoved possibly does

i disagree.

yep yep, read dependent obv but very true

does anyone ever raise the flop with a hand that beats us (meaning over 50% equity) and still fold to a shove nowadays?

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Hand #2 why not just ship it pre or fold

With our read it's an easy shove imho, QQ I'd fold though.