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Could I have lost less with AQo? Could I have lost less with AQo?

07-10-2022 , 10:07 AM
Levels are 1/3
Hero is in the BB with AQo with roughly $400
8 handed
Game is sort of tight passive with 2 frequent 3 betters but with the hands I saw they always had solid hands, not the best always but good hands regardless.
Folds to the CO and raises to $20
Dealer calls
SB calls and
Hero has AQo in the BB and I opt to call
Pot is $80

Flop is Qd2d2s
SB goes all in for their stack for $94
I saw the flush draw and opted to push in my stack to defend my hand.
CO calls his remaining stack of $185
BTN folds

Turn is a 4c

River is a 10d

CO catches his nut flush with AdKd

I’m thinking this hand over and was wondering if I could have had them fold on the turn if I just called the flop or was an all in inevitable because it was half his stack on the flop?
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07-10-2022 , 10:53 AM
no you played the hand perfectly and got unlucky ( also smart to overbet top top to defend from draws in that spot) Think about something else.
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07-10-2022 , 11:37 AM
Looks like you got a bunch of money in good and lost. It sucks to lose, but you will win more money than you will lose long term in spots like this. AKdd is never going to fold on this board. If you just call the SB jam, CO is probably going to shove flop anyway.

Did you consider 3bet squeezing here with AQ? Facing a big late position open and two cold calls, I would think 3betting here is going to be a really profitable play.
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07-10-2022 , 12:42 PM
Couldn’t really do anything else. You don’t have the Ad so the NFD is definitely in the SBs range.

Reload and get back to work.
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07-10-2022 , 02:26 PM
3b pre often, the rest looks fine.

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07-10-2022 , 03:56 PM
Since you describe the table as tight passive, you might have been able to get away from this preflop. AQo doesn’t fare well against a tight/passive player’s raising range.

Postflop is played fine and there is nothing else you could have done. If you see that flop you go broke.
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07-10-2022 , 04:38 PM
We can exploit fold aqo vs very tight opponents with large pf raises in some situations. After sb flats I think aq does better as a 3! than call.

As played, think calling the flop is better than shove.
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07-10-2022 , 05:35 PM
So CO is on a stack of $205 and raised to $20 pre? I think I 3bet pre here and not really stress much if I double CO up.
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07-10-2022 , 08:00 PM
Welcome to the forum, OP. I'm afraid you're asking the wrong question. Could you have lost less? Absolutely. Should you have tried to lose less? Nope.

When the money went in, your EV in the pot was +$53ish. You had (approx, since we don't know SB's hand) 42.4% equity in the main pot of $362 (average return = $153.49) and 56.4% equity in the side pot of $182 (assuming you meant CO had $185 total, and not $185 more) (average return $104.34). Thus your expected return was $257.83. You put $205 into the pot, so on average you'd profit by $52.83. Getting the money in with that kind of EV is what you want.

With only $91 left after SB's shove, CO wasn't likley folding the NFD OTF or OTT. He had 9 outs to the near nuts. By the rule of 2 and 4, he would have had about 18% equity (even assuming his overpair draws were no good) and even after the blank turn, and $91 would represent only 16.7% of the total pot, so he would have had a profitable draw even then, and even without his K outs. Sometimes a situation arises that, given the pot that already exists, is profitable for more than one player, and this is an example of it.

So as for the hand, this->
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Originally Posted by Balerion1
3b pre often, the rest looks fine.

As far as posting, it's far too late to edit it now, but in the future, please just post up to your decision point (so in this hand it would be after SB's shove) and stop there, posting "Hero?" Knowing the results often biases people's advice.
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07-11-2022 , 11:42 AM
The raiser only looks to have about a $205 stack and one of the callers is even much shorter than that. I don't think we should be putting in a huge 10% of stacks just hoping to flop something. There's huge dead money in the pot relative to the stacks. So preflop I'm shoving (well, for the $205 stack) or folding. If the CO is one of the tighter players and $20 is a protect-my-big-hand kinda raise, I'm folding. If CO is one of the more actiony players, I'm shoving.

On the flop we're committed versus the CO/SB stacks. After the SB shove we only have a ~PSB left. I think I might get a little greedy here and just flat in an attempt to bring CO along with worse (especially if we have the Ad which means it is highly unlikely he has a draw). i.e. I'm not really looking to fold out JJ which a shove will likely do but a call might not.

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