.1/.2 8-handed homegame. Most ppl are rec players with loose range. 3 ladies as well.

Hero: about $35 to start. considered the nit, sometimes maniac.

Vil: has hero covered by a little and on hero's direct left. loose and likes to bluff. don't have a lot of credit to hero. (these two played a lot and knows a good deal about the other)

Hero is button with QdTc. limped all the way to the flop.

flop comes AKJ all diamond. ZOMG str8 + royal draw...I guess I let this go over my head a bit when playing. MP bets $1, 1 caller, hero raise to $4, Vil re-raise to 10, fold to hero, hero shoves and vil calls.

board ran out 4hTs.



Reason I didn't raise pre: I know for sure that a 1.2 raise will get about 4 callers, and I'm not comfortable with a over-bloated pot with QTo even with position. Bad flop shove?

How many people in the pot? What are effective stack sizes?

I'm assuming you meant flop was all clubs??

Why are you assuming that? We have hero on a str8 plus royal draw with either clubs or diamonds, but with diamonds as specified by OP, eh is also drawing to the nut flush if any other diamond hits. With a made hand, and 8 outs to the nuts (say seven, because V must have at least one diamond to make the call) this seems like a standard shove. Our FE should be huge, and even if he flopped a flush we have about 30% equity.

Edit: Now I read spoiler and see why the "all clubs" comment above. This makes a big difference, as now we only have one out to the nuts, and other outs are to second nuts.

I advise against including results, even in a spoiler, until after the conversation has run its course.

Ok my bad for posting result. thought spoiler is fine. He had the diamonds. My typo. I always have problem typing diamond/club...

Not folding

Most people can't resist reading the spoiler and it affects their advice. Even those of us who do resist, other posters often allude to the results, thus skewing our analysis.

Not a cooler.

The moment Villain re-raised to $10, he turned his hand face up as a flush. Given the bet size there is ~$16 in the pot and $6 to call ($22) with $25 behind.

7 diamonds left leaves you roughly a 2:1 to 3:1 dog (actual is ~2.3:1) with 2 cards to come.

I would call and fold to a non-diamond turn.

Edit: I assume this villain would shove turn.

Wow this is deeeeeeeeeeep. Had this been 1/2 with effective stacks of $3500 I doubt anyone would recommend hero's line.

Wrong forum.

The absolute value of money has a profound effect on how a game gets played, especially at the lower blind levels (but is really related to bankroll size). People tend to have a dollar amount they are willing to gamble with and if that amount passes that threshold (a restaurant dinner, a car payment, rent, or mortgage), then play changes - sometimes dramatically.

Should that change how a Hero on 2p2 plays? Yes. Bet sizes for value go up playing micro and correct times to bluff decrease because people will pay $5 to satisfy curiosity, but not $500.

I have made this mistake before, It's a $0.10/$0.20 game, not a $0.01/$0.02 game.