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01-26-2019 , 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Garick
I agree that some posters are close-minded, but I think y'all are remembering a "golden age" when you learned a lot from the forums not because the forums have gotten lots worse, but because you learned all that stuff long ago and it is now basic and uninteresting to you.

I agree that we have less players with an online background now, so we have less good math-based discussions, but otherwise i think this forum is about the same. It is still an entry-level forum with a few very experienced posters who explain things well, and a lot of less experienced and/or not good at explaining/debating posters.
+1

Over the years, there have some other subtle changes. The forum as a whole is less busy than it was during the poker boom. While we are still far busier than when the forum opened (I could literally read every post made each day in about 15 minutes), it is far less busy than at the peak when threads that didn't have a post in the last 8 hours would drop off the front page. As a consequence, I'm far less prone to moving and closing threads that ideally would be in another forum. Also, I've allowed more general and hypothetical question threads in the forum than I would have 5 years ago.

I think having a fresh look at the older COTM's is a good idea. My one ask is that the new one be at least as good as the old one. For the most part, the information given 10 years ago is still good today for our level of posters. In a forum where very few posters break out an equity calculator when answering a question (what do you mean, range?), I'd avoid the COTM which is based on "this works for me, so it should work for you."
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01-26-2019 , 10:19 PM
What about social strategy?
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01-26-2019 , 11:03 PM
Or overbetting strategy

Also, the check-calling then leading bricks...is this gonna be a thing or what? (Was it a matter of pot control? Was it a matter of the semi-bluffs or bluffs? Was it sneaky value line? Was it a blocker bet?...etc)

Last edited by Hal N.; 01-26-2019 at 11:15 PM.
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01-27-2019 , 11:30 AM
You mean when V's do it? Or you mean when we're floating?
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01-27-2019 , 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Garick
You mean when V's do it? Or you mean when we're floating?
When V’s do it.

The overbetting strategy is probably the most needed. It’s not properly done, or rarely utilized in live low stakes.
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01-27-2019 , 05:26 PM
If I do something on overbetting, it would probably be just a section of a bigger thing on bet sizing. I have been trying to think of what I'd say about bet sizing. It's probably a weak part of everyone's game in the entire forum, and I include myself in that.
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01-27-2019 , 06:27 PM
A COTM on bet-sizing would be amazing. I wouldn't try to cover the whole topic in the OP like you usually do in your COTMs, though. There are just so many variables involved, and the discussion of those variables in the thread could be very rich. If you try to cover them all yourself, though, it might be too long and involved for folks to process.
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01-28-2019 , 07:17 AM
I think bet sizing, even opening bet sizing, is not utilized by most Players the way it could be. I think Players fall prey to the 'table standard' both PF and Flop before they start to consider getting creative or what type of opponent(s) or stack sizes they are up against. This is one area where tournament Players are much more aware than cash Players IMO.

Most Players start to consider 'factors' when considering a 3-bet or when a wet Board comes out multi-way, but in a lot of cases it's too late. Like when an $18 opening bet in 1/2 goes 5-ways and effective stacks are $150 on the Flop!

Not taking credit because I think I saw it here somewhere first ... Betting is going $1 higher or lower than the tipping point for an opponent's call or fold, depending on what you want them to do. That's easy for HU play but I've also commented many times that an UTG Player's weak Flop lead can easily price in the 2nd or 3rd caller's draws once flatted. Are they betting for thin value or pot control? Are they the same thing? Should they even be betting at all?

Certainly maintaining some semblance of balance, hiding our hand strength, is needed in poker but to limit or not even consider the other factors prevents those minor additions to our stack that can add up over time. GL
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01-28-2019 , 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by answer20
Not taking credit because I think I saw it here somewhere first ... Betting is going $1 higher or lower than the tipping point for an opponent's call or fold
Limon's 2k post had a quote like this.

I think if I were going to go this route (writing a COTM on bet sizing), I'd probably try to keep my OP to the unifying concept of sizing our bets (mostly postflop but occasionally preflop) to ensure that we are winning the battle of mistakes. It's a concept straight out of NLHT&P and it seems to have fallen out of fashion for a lot of the posters in this forum nowadays.
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01-28-2019 , 05:59 PM
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08-13-2022 , 12:34 AM
Been reading through the old COTWs.

How many of these remain relevant? Which ones have stood the test of time?

Any thoughts on updating some for today’s game?
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08-13-2022 , 11:02 AM
The COTM threads were a volunteer project when it first started out. Nothing stops anyone from doing another one. It died off because even writing a small one took a fair amount of effort. Just reading through the very first one and my two early efforts on Etiquette and Trouble hands brought back some memories. Personally, I'd say they are 90% valid today for low stakes today as a baseline. Keep in mind they were written for people playing a maximum of 2/5 12 years ago. The games are tougher today, but not that much tougher at low stakes.
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08-13-2022 , 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by venice10
It died off because even writing a small one took a fair amount of effort.
Agreed.

One and done for me.
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