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10-13-2013 , 05:47 AM
5/5, 500 effective stacks at the star casino in Sydney
Villain has just lost a pot, prone to tilt

Villain opens HJ to 30, I 3bet AcKs in CO to 90, villain flats.

Flop (190) Qs9s4h
Villain checks, hero bets 100, villain shoves for 400, hero calls.

once I bet this flop with these stack sizes I need to be calling it off. If I'm calling it off, I think I should be making my flop sizing a bit bigger, in order to give myself better odds to call a shove, and to cut down the times villain shoves with good equity against my hand. I block some combos of AQ and KQ, which is why I'm bet/calling this flop. All thoughts appreciated!
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10-13-2013 , 09:21 AM
I get that when you put almost 40 percent of your stack into the middle that you don't want to fold. But what do you have? Back door flush and straight draws and two overs - only. If you're happy getting it in bad then you need to consider bet sizes for balance, only. That is, how would you play this with AA or a set or a monster draw?

For me, your rationale to call based on blocking a few of his potential hands is weak. Better to call based on the fact that he is prone to tilting and could be on a draw, which means you could actually be ahead.

Checking the flop is too weak, but rather than increasing bet size, what about 1/3 pot bet, which could let you get away from the hand when he shoves? Smaller preflop raise leaves you with more options, too. I guess, however, that when you raised preflop with AK that your plan was to get it all in no matter what? Not sure who's tilted more at this point, you or the other guy?
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10-13-2013 , 09:28 AM
I think checking the flop the is totally fine. You are ahead of his draws which won't fold given the stack sizes and behind anything that hit the flop. The flop was not good for your range.

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10-13-2013 , 09:32 AM
now i dont think so
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10-13-2013 , 11:32 AM
Don't bet flop
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10-13-2013 , 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by bias1
I think I should be making my flop sizing a bit bigger, in order to give myself better odds to call a shove, and to cut down the times villain shoves with good equity against my hand.
I don't really think this makes sense. If anything I think you should bet small to induce from hands like KJ. I probably just check back flop though.
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10-13-2013 , 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by bias1
5/5, 500 effective stacks at the star casino in Sydney
Villain has just lost a pot, prone to tilt

Villain opens HJ to 30, I 3bet AcKs in CO to 90, villain flats.

Flop (190) Qs9s4h
Villain checks, hero bets 100, villain shoves for 400, hero calls.

once I bet this flop with these stack sizes I need to be calling it off. If I'm calling it off, I think I should be making my flop sizing a bit bigger, in order to give myself better odds to call a shove, and to cut down the times villain shoves with good equity against my hand. I block some combos of AQ and KQ, which is why I'm bet/calling this flop. All thoughts appreciated!

I don't really see a problem with cbetting this board, but I would most likely check it back. Once you are raised, why call? You are really just spewing chips at that point.
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10-13-2013 , 03:29 PM
3 bet bigger pf. As played check back flop because tilted villain that called a 3bet OOP is folding so rarely post. You're getting CRAI very often with these stack sizes and villain type.
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10-13-2013 , 10:32 PM
To those saying why call after we bet, a simple poker stove of ranges that shove AI against us will show that we are getting almost the exact pot odds to make the call here.

If we do decide to check back, are we calling sizable turn bets on blank turns?
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10-14-2013 , 01:22 AM
Check flop.
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10-14-2013 , 07:25 AM
I'm not unless I have seen him bet with air.

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10-14-2013 , 04:45 PM
There are heaps of strange players (and plays) at Star.

Always expect the unexpected there.
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10-14-2013 , 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by bias1
To those saying why call after we bet, a simple poker stove of ranges that shove AI against us will show that we are getting almost the exact pot odds to make the call here.

If we do decide to check back, are we calling sizable turn bets on blank turns?
Depends on turns but yes, I don't mind bluff catching turns
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10-15-2013 , 04:34 AM
i think bet/call flop is fine
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10-15-2013 , 04:35 AM
i think your size is fine too.
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