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Obv no jloc, but we figure to be ahead here a ton kwan. Hero is a maniac to these dudes. Villains can find really light calls NOW because duh, this kid has a fd or.... AK! When the K

peels off, now 88 or Tx doesn't beat anything.

LAGs have to play the top of their range fast (unless they are super deep) and take the coolers like men.

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04-15-2011 , 03:15 AM

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kwansolo

old hand

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,991

fine i give up

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04-15-2011 , 09:05 AM

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mmix85

journeyman

Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 377

This is a super easy flop shove. My standard 3 bet here is usually same size and sometimes smaller. Guess im doing it wrong lol.

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04-15-2011 , 07:49 PM

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jw123

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Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 459

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Originally Posted by kwansolo

i realize i'm the only person who is saying to call flop, evaluate turn; i want to argue more lol.

Part of your reasoning to flat the flop bet was to find folds on later street. I'm not sure I ever find a fold on turn/river. For instance, turn comes a blank, SB shoves, MP folds, and SB accidentally reveals a 10. Are you folding? I'm not. Only scare card would be top card pairing.

Also, to be results oriented, the same dude who flats a 12x 3-bet from the SB with 10-7o will never be folding the flop with an overpair, regardless of my image since they don't care about anything but their 2 cards. I think you can safely raise for value

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04-16-2011 , 05:08 PM

#30

DGAF

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Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 4,114

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Originally Posted by mmix85

This is a super easy flop shove. My standard 3 bet here is usually same size and sometimes smaller. Guess im doing it wrong lol.

You have a different image than op (92 showdown), so maybe what's right for him with AA in this spot is not right for you. Or maybe you are in tougher games/think you need to balance your 3-bet sizing.

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04-17-2011 , 05:52 AM

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booger369

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Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 4,542

aa is not the nuts. especially when sb highly likely has a flush draw and if ur lucky the other dude has jj. if not hes an idiot with j10

this is hte 400 max buy in im almost certain. in that game when u call flop, there is no folding between the two of them. so ur like a slight fav to win by showdown. and there will be a three way showdown. i can almost guarantee it.

get aksuited to call. fold out the small stack. in this game that 600 stack is actually "deep" and illogically he will call fold for 1/4 his stack but will not on turn.

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04-21-2011 , 01:55 PM

#32

fds

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 3,696

how in the world is this anything but a shove?

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