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Originally Posted by Minatorr
There isn't a huge difference, but if the preflop call is close between call/fold, you'd definitely fold 22-66. We can get oversetted by the PFR if he decides to flat a PP (rare but it drags down our EV slightly), and 22-44 make less straights than 55-QQ (again, unlikely but also drags down our EV slightly). Also very rarely we call with 1010-QQ, the 3-bettor has AK and checks it down and we win. Or we check it down vs PFR's lower PP and we win at SD. So yeah, 22-99 is definitely not the same as 1010-QQ in this "close" spot. Calling 22-44 is definitely a huge leak in this spot.
If the flatter (or anyone else coming along in the hand) isn't a complete moran, then getting oversetted with the small sets, while admittedly rare, should still be a very large worry because if any non-moran (other than the raiser) is willing to get in stacks postflop there's simply a very good chance that is what has happened. Had this happen last session out where there was en EP preflop raiser, an ok flatter, I nit fold 55 on the Button cuz blinds ain't morans (and stacks ain't great, although the bigger they are the more RIO there are anyways), and BB flats. BB gets in all his chips postflop against preflop raiser on Q65r, and of course I would have lost all my stack to his 66. Again, while rare, against a lotta opponents that's the only time you're getting in stacks here postflop against a flatter.
Obviously game dependent. There certainly was a time where with a flopped set of deuces I could barely contain my drool / excitement if someone wanted to move towards playing for stacks, whereas now I mostly just get sick to my stomach if that happens.
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