I am looking for some advice as to what I may or may not have done poorly in this hand. Just a backstory.... Im a female player that has been playing poker for quite some time but only recently started taking it seriously and studying etc. I feel like I botched this horribly (although I may be being results oriented now)

1/3 live Borgata 8 handed.

Effective stacks involved approx $400

Preflop: UTG limps for $3, I am UTG +1 and raise to $16 with J♣ J♠. everyone folds except UTG who calls $16

Flop: A♠ J♦ 10♥

UTG checks. I bet $15. UTG raises to $40. I call

Turn: A♣ UTG checks. I check.

River A♥ UTG bets $75. I raise to $175. UTG thinks forever and then goes all in for approx $340


Im a regular there and have not seen this player.... before middle aged guy with two beers in front of him at 10am. Telling stories about how his ex-wife screwed him and he will never trust a woman again yadda yadda. Ive played with him for an hour or so and he has not really gotten out of line (with the excepting of limping UTG and calling a 5x raise but thats typical live 1/3 at Borgata)

So..... I am beating myself up about this hand and feel like that dumb girl at the table now. Without me telling you the reveal, are you able to offer any insight as to what I may have done incorrectly here?

Bet turn, you filled up and V can have AQ/AK/KQ, you block AJ making it much less likely, flat river, you aren't getting value from anything when you raise river. Could make a case for a tight fold on the river too. He will have a lot of Ax when he raises flop (as bad as it is to raise those hands).

Everything is fine until the turn. V has to have a bunch of suited A's with his limp UTG and you have a full house so you have to bet big. River there is just no reason to raise this card, even KK QQ beats you now. You don't slow play that often at these stakes, you win by value betting.

I bet the Villain's hand was AT exactly.

Bet turn yourself - I would go $45 or so. As played, just call his river bet.

I just limp in but I don't play in a game where a reasonable EP raise is going to get this HU in position (and if that is going to be result, then I'm all for raising).

SPR is 12 and we have middle set in a spot where it is very unlikely our opponent has top set, and meanwhile can have a bunch of other worse hands that they would be willing to put in lots of chips with. So I think I'd mostly lean to large PSBs in an attempt to play for stacks by the river (although maybe against certain nits I could change my mind for this amount of $$$). Anyhoo, he's made it possible to play for stacks with his check/raise, so that's nice of him. With no flush draw I think I'm cool with just flatting in position and hope he barrels into us a couple more times for stacks (risking a handful of action killing cards). If there was a flush draw on board I'd more reraise now.

Fairly gross turn card as now a bunch of hands that we were beating have moved ahead, plus some of his hands that he though may have been good have been counterfeited (such as JT). About the only good thing is it has moved us ahead of KQ but I'm not sure a good player will pay off on a paired board, especially if our image is even half of what I think it may be (no offense). So I'm cool with the check back.

I think we really lost the plot on the river, where we basically only have a bluff catcher at this point. Raising is incredibly spewy as no one with half a brain is ever going to call with worse. So the question is between folding and calling. Since it is very unlikely he has bigger fullhouses, and we showed weakness on the turn, I would probably lean to a crying call to his original river bet (you can argue for a fold, imo). As played, trivial fold to his shove, imo; you're repping a slowplayed Ax and he doesn't care.

ETA: I'm outta step with others, by I think the turn check back is fine. No one check/raises the flop with TP, especially those who are passive enough to limp/call AK/AQ preflop, especially against anyone that might be remotely seen as nitty / ABC, so this is often two pair that just boated up or a straight that is unlikely to pay off gobs for stacks on this runout. The only hand we're missing out value from is TT, imo.

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Why no flop 3-bet? Seems like there's a lot of value unless he's only c/r KQ.

Slightly under 3x raises are either nutted or weaker hands trying to "see where they are at" which is more of an old school move that certainly fits V's description. Older men sometimes play back harder against women. H also made a bet lower then the previous street on the flop so thats another notch in the V possibly spazzing out column due to the $15 cbet. I am not that comfortable getting everything in on the flop because V is probably going to have all 16 combos of KQ, 3 combos of AA and the only thing we can stack off with a flop reraise that we beat is TT with AJ/AT being questionable. I like making our move on the turn where V can still have many A's including AKo/AQo.

bet larger on flop

bet turn

call or fold river

Bet larger flop.

Bet turn.

Call river.


River raise seems like a significant error.
Turn check also a big error.

There’s 16 combos of KQ + 3 combos of TT = 19 combos of worse value.

There’s 6 combos of AT and 2 combos of AJ = 8 combos of better value.

AK is also a possibility … if V is bad he could have overplayed TPTK. Although I do not think this is necessarily all that likely.

If we bet half pot on turn, half pot on river, I think he’s not folding KQ. Mathematically, betting turn is better than checking under that assumption.

Your reasoning is to take the idea that KQ doesn’t pay off gobs (which may or may not be true) and use that to claim we have to check. You should consider that we can bet less than gobs.

Bet turn. Call river. Raising river here is something you should almost never do, because you block many of the combos with a J, like KJ/QJ/JT. Any hand with a J here should bet-call, not bet-raise, but this is LOLlive poker, so there's always a slim chance.

Also, drinking middle-aged man with a chip on his shoulder about women 3-betting you OTR here practically says "I have the ace."

Thanks everyone! Yes, agreed as played looking back on it, I was a disaster. My thinking on the flop when raised was that he either had 1010 o AT. AT a little less likely because it was an under the gun limp/call and there are only two suited combos of that available. I discounted J 10 because there were no suited combos of that avail. and I discounted AJ because I have JJ. Im thinking he not raising that flop so small with a small A. And Im not putting him on AK / AQ /KK/ QQ at that point because I am positive he would have 3B me pre with those. So that left me with 10 10 or KQ or complete air. When the turn brings another A and he checked I assumed he didnt like it and I was back to thinking KQ or complete air. When the third A came on the river and he came out betting $75 at this point I was thinking he had 10 10 or nothing and was trying to buy it.

I did end up calling the all-in like a fool basically thinking (hoping) it was 10 10 or a bluff..... but it was AJ

Can bet turn, but checking is also probably fine. Call river, don't raise! Why would you do anything except call river? I could see raising with QQ or KK.

You block top boat. Are you trying to get value from a T? The only other likely hand is quads.

As played, it is only 165 more to call, so I guess call, but not thrilled. Hopefully we pick off a bluff or chop.

Pre: Fine.
Flop: Bet more but w/e.
Turn: Bet.
River is a trivial flat call, this is the big mistake.

I like the turn check, this check raise flop and check a card good for that range is often a trap. We can get our value on the river, where we can raise a small bet or call a big bet. Ranges are really narrow, he shouldn’t have hands like AK and TT but maybe he does. I think we see KQ and AT a lot.

As played call river the first time. As played fold to the river jam.

Your flop sizing is really bad on this texture - should be betting very large as this crushes your 3b range and most of his calling range. I agree with just calling the raise - the turn is definitely a bet even if his range is kq/Ax full houses only, and he checks which might lean towards KQ or non FH's. Raising the river doesn't make sense - his betting range is Ax/worse hands than yours - he's not betting KQ here. Raising only gets called by Ax - in theory I would expect him to only jam Ax but 1/3 live is filled with goofballs so make a live decision.

Flop bet is fine. The c/r is a pure call when we are IP unless we know V will blast off when we 3bet with hands we beat.

Turn: betting or checking is fine. Though I'd lean much more towards betting at LLSNL

River: raising is just a blunder. We are almost always chopping at best when we get called. It also forces us to fold a chop when V blasts off with J.