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12-22-2011 , 08:29 PM
Long time lurker, first post. This hand has bothered me for a while and I am concerned about whether I had the right thought process.

1/2 Game - Been playing at this table for about 2 hours

Hero - Hijack - Bought in for $200, currently at ~$650. Playing well, playing TAG, but occasionally showing some goofy plays/bluffs to appear somewhat reckless. I had made my decision to rack up and leave, and was waiting for the blinds to come around to me. I typically only play AA-KK-QQ-AKs in this mode.

V1 - SB - Bought in $200, got it up to like $1400 by being a complete maniac, and as expected has been lighting it on fire and giving it all back. Currently at $110

V2 - BB - Bought in $100, up a little, completely passive, never raises, calling station. Generally bleeds it off slowly and thinks he is winning with the occasional heater. Currently at $145

V3 - UTG +1 - Young decent player. Friends with V4 just to his left. Currently winning in the game, playing a conservative LAG style. Stack is around $600

V4 - UTG +2 - Another young decent player. Mixing it up, hard to read, but no obvious mistakes. Less aggressive than V3. Stack is around $450

V5 - Button - To my left, older Nitty player. Doesn't show up much post-flop, but has pretty much had something. Over-values Top pair/overpair hands. He has about $200ish

Hero has 77.

Pre-flop - Typical 1/2 action...limps around to V1 in SB who raises to $35. V2 Calls, V3 Calls, V4, Calls, Hero Calls (I consider folding as I am ready to leave and don't really want to give back $35 when I don't hit, but I can't stand not playing this hand given the action and odds), V5 Calls.

Flop - 764 rainbow. V1 goes all-in for his remaining $75. V2 calls, leaving $35 behind. V3 calls, V4 calls. V5 action pending

Hero???
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12-22-2011 , 08:37 PM
I would just dump my two racks of chips into the middle and wait for the dealer to rerack them +everyone else's chips.
If you lost it's not a big deal. Top set gets it in.
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12-22-2011 , 08:41 PM
Shove.
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12-22-2011 , 08:59 PM
Fold preflop, shove now.

I say fold preflop because in most circumstances you will not have the right implied odds to call $33. You need an average win of $300 to show a profit in this spot. Even if you stack V1 every time you make your set that's still not enough. The only way you could possibly consider calling is if you think you'll frequently make a ton of money from V3 or V4.

By the way, V3 and V4 sound terrible just based on the way they played this hand. Your read that they are decent is a bit suspect. If we change the read, I could now see calling preflop.
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12-22-2011 , 09:03 PM
I don't know. There's already $140 in the pot and a good chance you'll get an additional call behind. That's over $200 in the pot preflop. Seems like any suspected action from the deep stacks at all post flop would warrant a call.
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12-22-2011 , 09:11 PM
If V3 and V4 are actually decent players, then if they give us action postflop after we make a set we have to be legitimately worried about set over set.

As I said, though, I don't think V3 and V4 are decent players at all, which in my opinion would swing this from a marginal fold to a marginal call.
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12-22-2011 , 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Gween
Pre-flop - Typical 1/2 action...limps around to V1 in SB who raises to $35. V2 Calls, V3 Calls, V4, Calls, Hero Calls.
This made me LOLs. Typical for 4 callers to call $35 PF?? Just that I have NEVER seen this where I play 1/2...ever. I would never call with just 7s if there are that many players calling $35 PF ahead of me. As played, absolutely shoving without any hesitation whatsoever. Snap shove. Get it all in there and bring along whoever you can!!
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12-22-2011 , 09:53 PM
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12-22-2011 , 10:16 PM
ship the racks in, and when someone rivers u, complain about "the curse of the rack".
btw fold to the $35 preflop (especially given the fact that u r leaving).
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12-22-2011 , 10:24 PM
No brainer...


What else / what better could you want from your pocket 7's when you're chips are already in the rack?


Ship da clay chips and plastic racks, INSTA -SHOVE!
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12-22-2011 , 10:37 PM
if i see one more post today about flopping top set im gonna shoot myself
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12-22-2011 , 10:56 PM
[QUOTE=Gween;30538688]Long time lurker, first post. This hand has bothered me for a while and I am concerned about whether I had the right thought process.

1/2 Game - Been playing at this table for about 2 hours

Hero - Hijack - Bought in for $200, currently at ~$650. Playing well, playing TAG, but occasionally showing some goofy plays/bluffs to appear somewhat reckless. I had made my decision to rack up and leave, and was waiting for the blinds to come around to me. I typically only play AA-KK-QQ-AKs in this mode.



So how come you dont pick a hand (any hand) in the middle of the day (or at another time) and play in this AAKK QQ Aks mode?
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12-22-2011 , 11:03 PM
We're obviously getting it all in the middle here and living with the result. Don't call $35 preflop if you can't continue when you flop top set. The board is connected, but there are only two stupid, junky straights possible, both of which are unlikely preflop given that it was $35. It's not as if you have QQ and are worried about realistic straights when you flop top set on a QJT board
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12-22-2011 , 11:35 PM
why is this a tough decision?

"oh boo hoo, i flopped top set and now everyone wants to give me their money, how can i ever make this decision"

ship it.

sorry you got sucked out on (i'm assuming that's what happened? why else would you post this?)
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12-22-2011 , 11:55 PM
This seems like a juicy table tbh.
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12-23-2011 , 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Gween

So how come you dont pick a hand (any hand) in the middle of the day (or at another time) and play in this AAKK QQ Aks mode?
I understand playing extra tight when you are playing your last few hands (which at that point are now free to play prior to being in the blinds). However, I do find it funny that he only plays AKs/QQ+ and yet here decided to call $35 with 77. LoL

Also, who the hell raises it to $35 and who is bad enough to call it? Ahhh, the joys of 1/2.
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12-23-2011 , 12:02 AM
First. Don't rack up and wait. A good player should be able to exploit obvious lock down mode (just make them play for stacks, they won't do it without top set) when the BB gets to you leave.

If you did anything other than raise big, and play for stacks you played it wrong
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12-23-2011 , 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Gween
I typically only play AA-KK-QQ-AKs in this mode.

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Hero has 77.
“If youre not greedy you will go far, you will live in happiness too... like the oompa.... loompa.... doompity do.”
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12-23-2011 , 01:47 AM
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12-23-2011 , 05:15 AM
I call TIME... walk to the cage grab 2 additional racks say "im going to need these...M'ALL IN!"
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12-23-2011 , 11:29 AM
Obviously flopping top set is pretty good.

My question is more about the psychology of making the right play versus the strong desire to leave with my profit. I am ready to go, and I playing more to build a bankroll and my thought process is more about should I not even bother waiting for the blinds to come before leaving.

I notice that sometimes (maybe even a lot) I start getting into protection mode and stop playing my best game. If I set a goal of say $200 to win, when I hit that I ambasically ready to leave. I am building a bankroll, and the immediate goal of protecting/building that affects my game, to my own detriment.

FWIW, I shoved...

V5 folded, V2 called his remaining $35, V3 folded, V4 called...

V1 has QJs,V2 had 89o, V4 had 89o..

Turn was a 3...V3 claimed he folded a 5, not sure I believed him, but maybe...

River was a blank and I took the pot...

But I was still bothered that I got into the pot in the first place. So,without being results orientated...am I making a big mistake trying to protect when I am ahead, or was my mistake getting involved?

I would have been mad at myself if the flop blanked for me and I had to fold after sticking $35 in pre...
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12-23-2011 , 11:45 AM
Grunch

This is a pretty easy fold preflop followed by a pretty easy shove post flop. You are not getting the proper odds to set mine pre and post...i mean give me a break bro, if someone has 58 or 53 then you still have decent equity.
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12-23-2011 , 12:54 PM
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Ahahaha
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12-23-2011 , 02:36 PM
This reminded me of a hand from about a year ago ... I had 88 on the button and the flop was 235 ... Turn was an 8 and guy shipped $400-plus into the pot ... I had to do a triple-take to think this guy had just handed me $400 ... (I knew based on his style and previous streets that he didn't have 46 or A4).
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12-23-2011 , 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by CallMeVernon
If V3 and V4 are actually decent players, then if they give us action postflop after we make a set we have to be legitimately worried about set over set.

As I said, though, I don't think V3 and V4 are decent players at all, which in my opinion would swing this from a marginal fold to a marginal call.
Obviously it's a shove now.

Vernon, when we have top set, I'm not sure why a potential set over set situation would worry you.

You would have to light the casino On fire for me to leave this table. I'm talking a big fire too. A table full of Guys limp/calling 17 BB to connect and stack off on 7 high flops. Absolutely amazing. Racking up and leaving this is like a high school kid kicking a porn star out of his bed.

Oh yea, +1 to don't rack up and stay seated.
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