1/3 NLHE, 9 handed.

V - Unknown to me. Known to others. Has been very quiet at the table hardly playing any hands. 4 hours sample size. He's played every hand he's been in quiet and passive and hasn't shown down hardly anything and his stack hasn't moved. He folds 3 orbits then opens and everyone folds and he picks up the blinds. I 3-bet him once from BB with QJo when he opened 15 from BTN when folded to and he folded. Covers. CO.

H - Been card dead all night. Should leave but hate leaving down a bit (big leak I have). 285$ SB.

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Folds to V in CO who opens 12, BTN folds, I call SB with Q T, BB loose passive calls. 3-ways first to act.

Flop 35 - K 9 8

I check, BB checks, V bets 20, I call (?), BB folds.

Turn 75 - A

I check, V checks

River 75 - Q

I check, V bets 35, I x/r to 110 (?)

don't love calling pre vs a strong range, feels like you'll end up OOP with a weak pair or draw too often, I probably fold and wait for the next hand, would rather 3bet than call

hate calling on the flop, you're OOP with a gutter and backdoor flush, that's just burning money and definitely the worst decision in this hand imo

turn check is fine

river looks a bit spewy to me especially vs a nit, I'd expect most made hands to lead out here so your line looks kinda sus. The only better hands that might fold are Kx single pair hands, and given it's 1/3 a lot of guys sigh-call with that anyway

I'd 3b this pre a lot but calling is fine sometimes. It's best to avoid paying the rake if possible. Folding is pretty much out of the question. He's opening to 4bb which I guess is standard? I'd just go $35 - $40 still.

Flop is fine. If you are going to bluff - this would be the spot to do it, as played since you did not bluff flop, you cannot continue with a bluff on this river so everything is fine until the river, which you should just fold.

If you did want to bluff, you can raise the flop - and pretty much continue on turn and jam river.

AP just fold river.

Looks wp to me, maybe the only thing I would do differently is raise bigger on the river.

Your value range is mostly JT, and that probably wants to just check jam.

My experience at 1/3 is that Kx will actually not even bet. This looks like KQ or maybe even AQ.

Preflop is whatever, I like 3b oop in this situation.

Flop: it's kinda hard to float oop. I probably find a fold.

turn: standard

River: What is V folding here getting 2-1 to call?

Jam or fold.

River way bigger. You’re repping really polar.

I dont believe JT allows a potential check through on the river at 1/3 as the turn checked through.


Question for stupid banana - would you check the river if you had JT in hopes of check raising the river after you checked flop and the turn checked through?


I personally think based on sizing etc its a total punt

Its a bit of a punt for sure. Hero just doesn't have enough value hands to xr on river, and a lot of them would not take such a passive line.

Of course, villain needs to be good enough to understand that, but river xr seems extremely optimistic.

Result:

I like the hand on every street except that your river CR sizing should be much larger. Go $180+ or just CR shove.

QT is a good check raise bluff because it can win in a check check line but is not good enough to check call. And it blocks rivered nuts, sets and 2p which are the main bet call or bet jam hands.