$1/$2.

Pretty limpy table, but two guys seem to raise more than normal pf. They are not the main villians of hand though.

Hero. utg Mid 20s internet looking guy, the hoody and novelty local poker room sunglasses. Makes small talk with everyone though. $200.

Villian 1. utg+1 Early 40s, raises good hands pf, limps a ton of other hands, doesn't seem to understand position or bet sizing. $300

Villian 2. button 50s. Has been nursing a small stack for awhile. Limps a lot but don't remember him going to showdown much. Playing with his tablet a lot. $61.

UTG Hero has AKhh. Makes it $6. I'm hoping for the mp guys to 3bet a lil, then depending on their sizing i can 4bet or call with favorable spr.

Villian 1 calls. mp 1 calls. mp 2 calls. villian 2 calls. somehow the blinds fold. pot size $33.

Flop a25ccc. I check. Trying to keep pot small, plan on betting non club turn and river. Villian 1 makes it $15. Villian 2 calls. Again, I don't want the pot getting too out of control. But maybe a strong 3bet might just take it down here? But villian 2 has me a little hesitant. I call. Pot size $78.

3h. I check. I think I have showdown value against weaker ace with a club, but don't know that i wanna get in a bad spot vs v1 who has me covered, also straights out there now. v1 checks pretty fast. v2 checks. Pot size $78.

Jd.

I like that no one did anything on the turn, and that the river made no club draw get there. But again, straight out there, it's possible someone flopped the flush, but I'm thinking more that someone was drawing to the 4th club, if someone had a weaker ace with thejack, they just made 2 pair. Cjeck hoping to get to showdown. v1 checks. v2 goes all in for $40.

During the hand I'm thinking fold fold fold. Then I start thinking he missed his flush draw. Start thinking it'll cost me $40 with the chance of winning $120ish. Btw, I just assumed v1 was done with the hand from his body language on turn and river. I called.

After the hand I kept thinking easy fold easy fold easy fold. But is there any justifcation for a call with only one pair here as played?

Dude what the eff? This is one of the worst hands I have ever seen posted on 2+2.

1. Raise more pre. You don't want to rely on MP "3! a lil" whatever the hell that means. My standard UTG open is $10-12.

2. Bet the flop. Why the hell are you checking this flop? You are likely ahead of the callers' range here. Bet until someone gives you reason to believe you are beat. I am betting $25 as played on the flop.

3. Bet turn 2/3 PSB. No idea why you are checking here.

Unless you have a LAG image...don't raise small UTG hoping for 1/2 players to 3 bet you. You'll end up just being OOP against multiple opponents. Raise $12-$15 pre and get value for your hands. By raising to $15 pre...you should have just had V2 all-in on the flop...

Given v's history I dont see how this is ever a call. He seems like the type who would just check and give up with missed clubs or a weaker showdown hand close to 100% of the time.

I get why you wanted to call, but that logic only works for villains who are very spewy imo.

I also agree with ^^^^^ posters about the rest of the hand fwiw

No offense dude but this is certainly the worst hand I've ever seem..... Agree with Johnny's post.

Agreed. It was such a horrible hand all around that it was starting to level me. Usually my bad hands are just normal bad hands.

No offense, OP, but this is pretty bad.

Preflop: Are these guys 3betting every hand or something? If so, then I guess I could see a small raise to induce followed by a 4b for value, but the vast majority of the time, we're going to get way more value with a larger raise, and play against a manageable number of opponents where we can actually win a large pot with TPTK pretty often.

Flop: Checking here misses soooo much value. A bet is going to get called by weaker aces and any high club, i.e. a large portion of opponents' ranges.

Turn: Checking here misses value for the same reason checking the flop misses value. 4x is such a tiny portion of their ranges, and there are so many weaker hands that call a bet.

River: Against the right opponents (aggro bluffy types), I'm fine with checking here to bluffcatch, but against typical 1/2 loose passives, bet for value all day as played. We're going to get called by hands like A7o. The question of whether or not to call V2's $40 shove should absolutely never have come up. One problem with playing so passively is that it often leads to hard decisions against opponents with wide ranges.

Guys, no offense taken. Thanks for the feedback.

OP, nearly 2 years ago you posted the thread called: What's the preflop raise in live 2-2NL?

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/17...2-2nl-1319366/

Apparently, you didn't heed any of the advice given to you there. This is not online poker, this is live which is a different game and you need to make adjustments. You could be the greatest online player in the world but if you do not adjust then you are playing suboptimally.

I'm reminded of Daniel Negreanu on High Stakes Poker. Negreanu is one of the best tournament players in the world and he has a great mind for the game. However, on High Stakes Poker he made many fundamental errors simply because he didn't know how to properly adjust to that game.