Small stakes 25c/50c

$75 effective stack size

Hero raises $2 from MP with 6d7d
BTN, SB and BB calls.

Flop 4s 5s 8c (Pot: 8)

BB leads out for 5, Hero raises to 13, only BB calls and continues. Pot 34

Turn 4s 5s 8c 8d BB checks, Hero checks back
River 4s 5s 8c 8d 10c BB bets $25

Should Hero be folding to this bet on the river. Not much reads on villian yet. Could hero have played this better.

Welcome to the forum, OP. In the future, please don't post the results, as it biases people's advice.

You flopped the nuts on a very wet board, Raise bigger OTF. After your call, the pot is $18, and your raise was only $8, less than half pot. This offers great odds to drawing hands and makes getting stacks in difficult. Make it at least 3/4 pot. $20 sounds good.

AP to turn, check back is awful. Sure, you are now losing to 44, 55, and 88, but there is only one combo of 88 possible, and 3 combos each of boats. That's only 7 combos total, and they rarely check turn anyway. In the mean time, there are tons of random 8s, overpairs, and FDs in his range, and they will all pay off a turn bet.

AP to river, obvious call is obvious. You beat everything but boats and quads, he could be bluffing missed draws or betting trips/overpairs for value, and you only have to be good 30% of the time for the call to be profitable. Raising will almost never get called by worse, so call.

Agree with Garick. The only thing to add is that you have wildly under represented your hand. It looks like you had a FD with two overs on the flop.

Any info on villain?

What was your plan on a not paired turn / river ? You got 60 behind in a pot of 34 so maybe like bet 20 on turn and 40 river.

I like to raise more on the flop. Donk bets are normally really nutted hand (sets) or complete ****. In the latter hell fold anyway...and hell not fold his sets... So raise to like 22 so you get a pot of like 52 and you can shove turn (50 left) on a not paired turn.

AP I think you can b/f 20ish on the paired turn

AP we need info on Villain!
Can he defend pre with 98/T8/A8s/K8s? Does he 3b some of those hands so we can take em out of his calling range? Did he donked bet in a multiway pot before? Can he bluff 25 on a missed spade draw?

Vs unknown I think I fold. Its more than 30% of the time a boat I think... You got 30% odds.


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+1

I don't think you can b/f turn or fold river as played almost ever. vs an unknown his c/r or river betting range as played includes a ton of 8x, especially with the flop donk. All games are different, but weak leads on flops into pre flop raisers on boards that look like they missed are people "betting to see where they're at" quite often with top pairish type hands or sometimes flush draws.

Garrick nailed it.

Thanks for the great advice Garick.

I understand your reasoning, but i also feel as though his lead out into two people looks very strong probably two pair or better and he would only be check calling his draws. So when the second 8 comes on the turn i feel like he is more likely to have made full houses and he checks them because he expects me to bet turn again. This is my thought process for checking turn back in order to maintain pot control and then revaluate on the river. Anyways i see the logic in taking other lines. I guess i just need more info on villian in order to make better decisions.

Should probably raise river

You are mirror-imaging here. Lots of Villains lead out with draws, especially in smallish pots that they want to either take down with air, or build up enough to play for stacks if they hit.

What two pair combos have an eight in them and called a raise pre? Basically none. He could very easily have made trips with A8,89,78 (including some off-suit combos), but there is only a very slim chance he has 85 or 84. The only boats/quads in his range are the flopped sets, of which there are very few combos available, as I noted before.

You are losing a ton of value if you are often pot controlling the flopped nuts just because it's not the nuts anymore on the turn. Pot control is for weak TP type hands in most circumstances, not the effective 4th nuts.

Raise flop bigger; bet turn; shove river.