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02-09-2020 , 04:01 PM
Max table. Live $1/$3. Just sat down 2 orbits ago, no reads. Folds around to hero in HJ.

Hero makes it $12 with A4 Button and BB call. Effective stacks $600.

Pot $37: Flop 3 77 Checks around to Button who bets 15. Hero raises to $45. Button calls.

Pot $127 Turn: 9. Hero checks. Button bets $60. Hero raises to $180. Button tank calls.

Pot $487 River K. Hero checks. Button bets $60. Hero jams for $375 ($295 more). Thoughts?

Last edited by lovestarsz; 02-09-2020 at 04:17 PM.
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02-09-2020 , 04:39 PM
Click click click
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02-09-2020 , 04:47 PM
Avoid check/raise bluffs until you have some read on villain. Without some idea who to target and when to give up you will get yourself in trouble too often.

This board is particularly one to avoid. These paired boards cause weird play, both in terms of bluffing and calling. It's workable against some villains but not all. When that gets called you need to have some idea if continuing against this specific villain makes sense.

River check/raise is almost always a terrible idea. After villain calls a check/raise on flop and turn there are very few that continuing on river is a good play.
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02-09-2020 , 04:49 PM
Can't think of any value hand that we'd want to play like this.

That said, I can't think of any hand that we'd want to play like this.

If we, for whatever reason, decide to bluff 3 barrels you def have to just jam river instead of checkraising
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02-09-2020 , 05:05 PM
ugly & fold pre
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02-10-2020 , 12:11 AM
imagine making up a really dumb scenario and creating a thread about it
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02-10-2020 , 06:20 PM
Pure spew with no read and no hand.
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02-10-2020 , 06:24 PM
Fold pf. This is the bottom threshold for my button open.
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02-11-2020 , 12:27 PM
Ha ha ha, wtf was the logic here?
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02-11-2020 , 01:09 PM
Let me guess - he called and you lost to 75s?
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02-11-2020 , 06:49 PM
Villain calls and turns over 77 for flopped quads. He called so quick I was nearly about to call the floor over to see if my chips had even crossed the bet line. Can't play them all perfect
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02-11-2020 , 07:20 PM
of all the badges you could be awarded on your PTR page in the good old days, the three street check/raise badge was the one I coveted the most. Went for it once with middle set and lost to top set

can't remember what the actual badge was - anyone ever get it?
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02-12-2020 , 04:17 AM
Sure this may work occasionally but it doesn’t make any sense
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02-12-2020 , 12:31 PM
I fold preflop because I think HJ is simply too early to be getting out-of-line; we still have almost half the table to react behind us plus two of those guys have position and we have a crap hand. Preflop result (not HU, not in position, with a crap hand) is incredibly meh and should be expected, imo.

I probably make a small ~1/3 PSB cbet. It'll be hard for anyone to continue if they have nothing and we'll even steal pots from better Aces a high percentage of the time. Don't really like the check/raise at all, especially if Button has half a brain (would we check/raise AA here?).

I pretty much mentally muck my cards when the flop check/raise is called. Everything after that looks like clicking buttons / tremendous spew to me. Although why do I get the feeling Villain folds 33 face up and we look like a geenyus.

GcluelessNLnoobG
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02-12-2020 , 01:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gobbledygeek
I fold preflop because I think HJ is simply too early to be getting out-of-line; we still have almost half the table to react behind us plus two of those guys have position and we have a crap hand. Preflop result (not HU, not in position, with a crap hand) is incredibly meh and should be expected, imo.

I probably make a small ~1/3 PSB cbet. It'll be hard for anyone to continue if they have nothing and we'll even steal pots from better Aces a high percentage of the time. Don't really like the check/raise at all, especially if Button has half a brain (would we check/raise AA here?).

I pretty much mentally muck my cards when the flop check/raise is called. Everything after that looks like clicking buttons / tremendous spew to me. Although why do I get the feeling Villain folds 33 face up and we look like a geenyus.

GcluelessNLnoobG
Villain snap called with 77 and we did not look like a genius.
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02-12-2020 , 04:12 PM
I like villain’s line, I think his small river bet is a nice touch. Looks like he’s betting small to rep fear of the K, like he has mid pockets. If he went much bigger, hero’s raise can’t be big enough to induce a fold. Seems like he correctly puts hero on not much because otherwise villain simply shoves river.

This hand has some object lessons in it e.g. don’t play subpar hands pre if you’re going to get married to bluffing when you miss and don’t take lines with bluffs that you would never do with value hands.
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