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is this c-bet a leak? is this c-bet a leak?

09-20-2022 , 02:39 PM
1/2

common spot that i usually mix between check and bet, but i'm wondering if 4 handed is too many to bet here.

Hero opens to 10$ MP over one limper with 99 no club

CO calls TAG
BB very loose calls
limper calls

Flop (41$)
5cJd3c

checks to hero who bets 20$

I usually mix between bet and check with the one over out there, betting for thin value and protection mostly, more inclined to bet heads up or 3 handed, i think we can get called by 5x clubs and straight draws, even KQ type hands.

But 4-handed I feel like we will often be inflating the pot with two outs, is it spew to c-bet this.
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09-20-2022 , 03:23 PM
No. Feels like a good spot to cbet. For value and equity denial. We obviously dont mind to take it down right away.
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09-20-2022 , 04:35 PM
I would not C-bet this flop. It's not good for your range (not the worst, but not good) and with 3 opponents and lots of draws available, I'd be ready to give up to any significant action. Only one opponent left to act, so hope for a free card, and maybe you get lucky or get a good bluffing candidate.
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09-20-2022 , 04:44 PM
This isn't a bad board to cbet but if you don't have proper reads on the players in the hand x giving up can't be the worst play. Thinking someone is going to peel with KQ 4 way is a bit ridiculous though.

Are some of the V's going to call with a worse pair? Do they play ABC? Can I barrel some of them off the hand if a higher card then a J comes? These are some of the thoughts that go through my head before betting in a multiway pot.

You will likely have position after firing a cbet. If you x here there aren't that many good cards for you on the turn so you are pretty much giving up the hand by checking. You are still likely to have the best hand on the flop so combining these ideas means a cbet is the right play.

Last edited by AAJTo; 09-20-2022 at 04:51 PM.
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09-20-2022 , 05:29 PM
I don’t like cbetting this particular board texture as it’s not great for our range and is for the fields. Not generally a fan of cbetting Jxx boards without a solid read or plan and with the clubs and two low cards we are gonna be floated a decent amount and then what’s our plan?

I think some less connected Axx, Kxx are better for our range if we were gonna cbet.
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09-20-2022 , 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by MuchoGood
I don’t like cbetting this particular board texture as it’s not great for our range and is for the fields. Not generally a fan of cbetting Jxx boards without a solid read or plan and with the clubs and two low cards we are gonna be floated a decent amount and then what’s our plan?

I think some less connected Axx, Kxx are better for our range if we were gonna cbet.
Id much rather cbet on a board like OP describes compared to an A 3 5 board where someone is likely to have an A where we have 2 outs to improve and little post flop maneuverability . J high board our cbet folds out all the Qx Kx Ax hands that don't have a pair and we can then claim those cards if they hit.
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09-20-2022 , 07:03 PM
Im checking in this situation 100% of the time.
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09-20-2022 , 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by SetOfNines
1/2

common spot that i usually mix between check and bet, but i'm wondering if 4 handed is too many to bet here.

Hero opens to 10$ MP over one limper with 99 no club

CO calls TAG
BB very loose calls
limper calls

Flop (41$)
5cJd3c

checks to hero who bets 20$

I usually mix between bet and check with the one over out there, betting for thin value and protection mostly, more inclined to bet heads up or 3 handed, i think we can get called by 5x clubs and straight draws, even KQ type hands.

But 4-handed I feel like we will often be inflating the pot with two outs, is it spew to c-bet this.
My table is too loose passive not to bet here, although I check OOP. With only one caller behind I'm betting for thin value but I see people call twice with stuff like 45 no club/any A2 or A4/heck even call pre with AK and call here with two overs.
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09-20-2022 , 08:27 PM
I’m betting almost every time here, yes, and for a small amount. Betting accomplishes several things: denying equity (against KQ hands), getting called by worse hands (flush draws, random 5s and 3s, etc), and occasionally by getting better hands to fold (CO really should be folding his JT hands to this).

Would be a different story if more guys had position on you, but with just one this is an easy bet. Even if one of the BB or Limper has you beat now, by betting the Flop you gave yourself a better opportunity to bluff them off a Jack on the right runouts.
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09-20-2022 , 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by AAJTo
Id much rather cbet on a board like OP describes compared to an A 3 5 board where someone is likely to have an A where we have 2 outs to improve and little post flop maneuverability . J high board our cbet folds out all the Qx Kx Ax hands that don't have a pair and we can then claim those cards if they hit.
i wouldn't cbet A35 either
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09-20-2022 , 10:38 PM
I like it.
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09-20-2022 , 11:38 PM
It's fine, especially ip vs two out of three.
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