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02-18-2024 , 08:49 PM

Stupidbanana

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1/3 NLHE 9 handed

V1 - Maniac burning through BIs RFI about 50% calling about 30% and 3betting a bit. Has shown AXo T8o and Q2s. 325$ BB.

V2 - Loose passive fish. Straightforward post. Jams his value to avoid making decisions. Covers. UTG.

H - Just sat down and feeling the vibes. 450$ SB.

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V2 straddles UTG, two limps including BTN, H limps 6$ with 7

, V1 pops to 40, fold to H who BR to 115, V1 calls.

Flop 240 (210 back) - J

Hero?

Last edited by Stupidbanana; 02-18-2024 at 08:58 PM. Reason: Got action wrong

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02-18-2024 , 09:00 PM

fatmanonguitar

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Pre-flop is shenanigans. If you expect maniac to do this, just raise first in so at least your four bet can shove and realize equity if he calls off. You kinda knew he was going to call your back raise and now it leaves you with SPR less than one when you hate most flops. Your sizing would be better for hands that you’re happy to stack off with on most flops like larger pairs. at this point, I guess just shrug and jam.

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02-18-2024 , 09:27 PM

Mr Spyutastic

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The back raise size is too small I would just jam it in.

As played I would check jam.

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02-18-2024 , 10:39 PM

submersible

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Originally Posted by Mr Spyutastic

The back raise size is too small I would just jam it in.

As played I would check jam.

this is very good advice re back raise sizing. you want to use this size with hands with more playability imo. could get on board for betting 10% too otf but think this post basically ends the thread

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02-18-2024 , 10:59 PM

YanasaurBBQ

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Would not backraise w 77 even vs a maniac bc there are so few good flops when he calls.

However, this is definitely one of them.

JAM it now. I would not go for check jam, if he checks behind and turn is a high card that sucks.

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02-18-2024 , 11:02 PM

deuceblocker

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This is a really bad hand to reraise preflop with, because you flop few draws. Unless it comes with a 7 or like 986, it will be hard to play. I would call his 3! multiway. HU, you could call or fold. Not that crazy about bluff 4!ing a maniac in general.

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02-19-2024 , 06:14 PM

Smoola1981

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Yanasaur and deuceblocker,

Maybe you guys need to re-read the part where OP stated that Maniac Villain is RFI 50% of all hands. Pocket 77 is way ahead of a 50% range. Therefore, it is an easy reraised for a shove sizing preflop

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02-19-2024 , 10:03 PM

deuceblocker

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Originally Posted by Smoola1981

He may be 50% RFI, but that doesn't mean 50% raising at limpers. If 77 is over his range, it is only slightly. Plus you are like automatically pushing the flop and he gets to decide. You have no idea where you are at with 77 usually. If it was 99 or AQ, this play would be fine.

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02-20-2024 , 03:44 AM

Stupidbanana

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02-20-2024 , 04:05 AM

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Mlark

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SPR is less than 1, I would have jammed. I think flop jam makes sense when SPR is so low. Don't let him realize equity. Or have him just call off with Q7o. What an idiot. Nice hand.

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02-20-2024 , 10:59 AM

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docvail

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Posting hand histories like this could break the internet.

I'm with the others. Don't hate the idea of back raising this V, but I hate doing it for this size and with 77.

Both the hand and the raise sizing are too in-between. 77 is going to be behind a lot, and our raise-jam is going to get snapped off a lot when the SPR gets this low.

Bigger pair or big suited ace, and either an all in jam or a higher SPR going to the flop, I'd like it better.

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02-20-2024 , 12:34 PM

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Javanewt

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I'd go a little bigger pre, but it's all fine and good vs. a maniac. I like it.

Wish it had worked as well for me last night

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