1/2 club game

V is a semi-nitty reg in the game. Maybe 20/10/5 pre. Will follow up raises pre with c-bets some times but rarely making big bluffs and doesn't like playing for stacks. H usually exploits V by making big semi bluffs with equity when he can threaten V's whole stack, and did this once tonight already when H flopped an OESD and BDFD on an ace-High flop and shoved over V's c-bet. V did 4-bet shove 86dd pre tonight for about 150 and sucked out v KK which was very, very out of character.

H should have an aggressive image to V, and is certainly looser than V. A couple sessions ago H stacked V about 500 deep when V couldn't get away from AA after H flopped top pair, turned two pair and rivered a boat.

H straddles 5 on BTN.
V (320) calls in SB.
Fishy reg (400) call from MP.
H (covers) checks Ks6s on BTN.

Flop ($15) - AhKh6c. V bets $10. MP folds. H raises to $30. V reraise to $130 leaving about $175 back.

Hard to come up with many hands I'm losing to. 66 and A6 make sense, but I block the former and not sure if V is playing A6o pre from the SB first to act. I also thought V could have AA or KK and whiffed on a l/rr pre, but obviously those hands normally just raise pre. His semi-bluffs (don't think he semi-bluffs a lot) would be flush draws but A and K of hearts on the board block a lot of them.

Thoughts on next action. This is the third best made hand I can have on this board because I'm never checking w AA, KK or AK pre here. Also, thoughts on the flop raise? I was trying to build a pot without scaring a scared money V by going too big.

Fold.

a lot more 2p in Villains range than Semi bluffs.

Grunch from title alone: Fold. OK, off to read the post.

Post reading the OP: Still fold. V has some AA/KK that missed a limp/re-raise, and a lot of AK in his range here. He has some semi-bluffs, but few. I'd expect more complete air that thinks you are FOS than semi-bluffs, tbqh.

Bet/3-bet OOP is a super strong line, and V looks like he thinks you are semi-bluffing and wants to deny odds.

Just to refine the read a bit, I don't think V is generally the type to l/c AK. Maybe he l/rr it but not the type of player who is just flatting w AK because he doesn't have a pair yet.

What can V have that does this aside from a missed l/rr with AK, AA, KK or 66?

Does H raise his straddle very frequently?

People (even tight people) often lose their minds in straddle pots. They somehow get in their head that that straddler can only be bluffing. Here though it feels like V is heavily weighted to value and all his value beats us. I can't imagine him putting in the 3! with AQ.

Hmmm. Only one A6s combo and one 66. I suppose a couple AA/AK combos make sense if villain anticipated a raise behind and wanted to l/rr. There are also three combos of 86s/76s/65s. Against this range, you have about 32% equity. Looks like a fold.

Villain needs AQ- here 33% of the time to make calling a break even play.

Fold.

It looks like V was going to l/r with AA/KK/AK, missed his chance, and flopped gin.

No, H has straddled most buttons and only raised once, and ended up showing down with AQ so haven't been raising light from straddle. Agreed that would be relevant though and make a l/rr more likely.

I have to echo other posters, especially Nice Guy Eddie for providing the combos we can be facing here. It's a pretty gross fold, but I'd expect V to be playing a face-up range here on an A high board facing a flop raise while he is OOP. Once you raised his bet, I doubt he puts you on worse than Ax so I'm sure a nit wouldn't be looking to stack off here with AQ-AT. He would have to view you as a very, very aggressive player to decide to stack off here, but from his perspective he has to assume your range is capped here since you would raised the straddle with all AA/KK/AK/66 combos, so he might think AQ is the nuts right now.

Still wouldn't risk it against a nit and we feel pretty comfortable with a fold. But its an interesting hand, indeed. Would be a tough decision if we were up against a winning LAG.

naw, you got the best hand here by what you have said so far. he would do this with any big ace hand and doesnt have ace king as they raise with it against a straddle.
or has a big draw and is raising you off and betting enough to call if you reraise.

i like your spot here.

I don't like that idea, so many more combos of hands we lose to than we beat that's 3bets flop.

how many A6 combos can villain have? How many AK (discount how much % pre-flop that don't raise)

Same with AA/KK (how many and then, how much discount)

I'd believe you find us to be crushed more than ahead. Seems pretty easy fold.

Then add semi-bluffs, QhTh, QhJh JhTh, how many more semi-bluffs? Do you think he does this with AoJh AoTh? I don't think so, like ever.

So I folded and can't give results, looks like that's the consenus here too which makes me feel better about it. A player I know and respect who plays a lot with V too thought it was the right fold.

What do people feel about the initial flop raise? In retrospect I wish I'd gone a little bigger.

Easy fold. I'd have raised to 35 or 40 on the flop but not a big deal.

Came back to this thread. After playing more w/ V, I've learned that he LOVES to limp/reraise. So I now am pretty sure he had a monster here (AA, KK or AK) that whiffed on a limp-reraise pre.