Hero: Mid 20s. TAG showing down mostly winners. Stuck, but have $620 in front of me.

Villian ($470): kind of new to the table he's been here about 45 minutes or so. Mid 20s and has been active. He's 3 bet twice in his time at the table but hasn't gone to showdown. Had a feeling he was pretty LAG but no showdown hands to know for sure.

1/2NL: I am UTG with 22 and limp. Villian makes it $12 from MP and everyone folds to me. I call.

Flop ($27): K72

I lead for $12 to induce a raise. He obliges and makes it $32. I 4bet to $75. He calls right away.

Turn ($177): 8

I check. He checks his cards and then announces "$200".

Hero?

C/r flop.
Don't fold now.

You should probably fold pre.

How can we fold pre we're over 200bb deep?

I kinda want to fold when he overbets the pot like that. I feel like he has a weak flush here often, but if you think he's capable of doing this with the lone ace of it's a shove.

You're in a heads up pot oop facing a 5x iso raise vs a lag. I think you should fold b/c you're not stacking him often enough. His range is too weak and your range is probably going to be pretty face up when you start shoveling a ton of money in.


Given description, its very possible you're going to be facing a lot a heat post flop. If you're playing 22 strictly as a set mine here you should fold. If you can hand read really well, turn your 22 into a bluff in appropriate spots, etc I don't mind a call.

this is actually a pretty sick spot, right on the line...

Andees has a good point about setmining vs LAGs... truth is, their range isn't strong enough to properly set mine however...

LAGs can be spewy enough post flop to justify set mining if other callers come along for the ride. There are also other factors involved, namely the dynamic between you and the LAG. If you have been frequently clashing then I don't mind set mining here as that will add to the mix and dynamic you have... but if you are playing fairly snug then set mining isn't all that profitable for the reasons Andees mentioned...

As played, because he is younger and being awesome at the table and making moves and not making it to showdown, call him down.

flat the raise and check/call river.

If he is a "true" LAG then his range is going to be way wide enough with enough random KxQ or AJ or Q7 type crap hands in it to make our call down +EV.

The more LAGgy he is the more we should just call down.

Also, in your OP you said he was a pretty LAG... but I'm guessing you meant to say "good" or "bad" but forgot...

that is also helpful...

but in general, the more this kid has been splashing around and raising, the more likely I am to just call him down and feel good about it. Give him the chance to be awesome and put your foot up his ass.

c/r flop. also you 3b, not 4b. as played make the 3b bigger. as played now shove.

First, it would be helpful to know which 2 is in your hand and which 2 is on the flop, because the 2 can't be both. This is relevant for evaluating Villain's pair+flush draw possibilities on the flop.

I approve of leading the flop, but I'd prefer to bet at least 20.

OOP, as played, I'd cram that flop reraise to at least 95.

Wow on the turn. Would he overbet the pot with a flush? Interesting. He has about 190 behind, so he's bet just over half his stack. Flat calling and seeing another spade on the river is pretty gross.

I have no idea what to do.

Another option may have been to bet 130 or so on the turn. I don't like automatically shutting down every time the flush draw hits.

Having 200+ BBs doesn't mean we have to limp/call and play pots out of position.

I'd probably call, but I have no problem with limp/folding.

It was the 2 on the flop. Sorry about that.

I ended up tanking and got him talking. I asked him if he'd show if I folded and he stayed quiet. I asked him about 3 more times and tanked some more then he eventually said "ok I'll show you one if you fold" and he looked pretty anxious and shuffling his cards. I called. River was a 7 and I shoved. He thought for about 3 seconds and called. Guy next to him said he saw a red King in his hand. When I called the turn bet I specifically thought he had the Ace of spades in his hand and the other card was a non-spade King.

Also, how is this not a 4 bet I made on the flop? I bet out $12. He 3bet me to $32, and I 4bet to $75.

I can never bet this turn card right? I get all the worse hands like AK to fold because I'd be repping the flush, and I give him a chance to bluff or semi-bluff this turn with a worse hand. Am I thinking about that right?

Preflop, the big blind bet is the initial bet (1-bet), the first preflop raise is the 2-bet and the reraise is the 3-bet.

Applying the same analogy post-flop, your $12 is the first bet (1-bet), the villain's raise is the 2-bet and your reraise to $75 is the 3-bet.

I have usually only heard 3b, 4b being used while describing preflop though so not entirely sure if the postflop analogy holds. Usually folks just refer to it as raises and reraises.

It is only a 3bet because it is the 3rd bet. His bet was a raise and then yours was a 3bet. 3bets happen preflop because there are already blinds in so when you open the pot pf and someone raises you, that is the 3rd bet counting the blinds.