H SB looks down at KK, checks, checks to V who goes $35, folds back to H. Call or raise? OOP I’m concerned about if I flat I really have to check turn and potentially give V 2 free cards.
I think you are limiting yourself by saying you "really have" to check turn if you call flop. Leading turn feels goofy & face-up, but this is low stakes. Turn SPR is going to be under 2 if turn goes heads-up. Chunking out your turn & river bets to get stacks in is super simple, seems like the plan to me.
Raise now. Every card 6 or higher pairs the board or makes a possible straight; if V has a good enough hand to pay a near pot bet if you bet turn he has a good enough hand to call you now and I think check raise looks weaker than call donk bet. Too many scare cards possible on the turn that can limit what V is willing to call.
The problem is that the flop is rainbow. I disagree that check-call and then leading turn looks stronger than a flop CR from the 1st position. If you look at this board, the only draws are straight draws on this rainbow flop. If Villain is aware of bomb pot strategy, he will know that a flop CR on this flop texture from the 1st position player is likely a strong value hand and not a draw.
There is some risk of going for a check-call and then a turn lead. It does suck if a straightening card completing an OESD/double gutter hits the turn. Regardless, I think you might get lucky and have a turn card that brings a backdoor FD. If a turn card makes additional draws possible, we can lead turn hoping that Villain will put us on a weak hand that turned equity.
Raise now. Every card 6 or higher pairs the board or makes a possible straight; if V has a good enough hand to pay a near pot bet if you bet turn he has a good enough hand to call you now and I think check raise looks weaker than call donk bet. Too many scare cards possible on the turn that can limit what V is willing to call.
My thinking as well, tons of turn cards could kill your action if he's strong now with so many straight draws possible.
In a bomb pot situation the way i would play this first to act is just bet yourself. People are really bad with bomb pots and will call with pieces of it.
I would just lead out for $25. You could get called in a bunch of spots and it doesnt look as strong as check raising.
We are probably supposed to check range in the small blind. I would check raise to make it easy to be all in. People don’t generally bet light in bomb pots.
Raise now. It's a bomb pot. Everyone could have any two cards. Nobody likes to bet a bomb pot with a weak hand. The fact that V bet says he has a strong hand or a good draw.
Results: H thinks that obviously any set, 2p, AA, QJ, 89, J9 or reasonable K will call a raise. AQ & AJ probably call, plus some spew factor. Additionally 24 turns bring a straight and 9 cards pair the board maybe killing action. So H raises to $80 and takes it t down. Obviously not a bad outcome, just wasn’t sure on the play.
Results: H thinks that obviously any set, 2p, AA, QJ, 89, J9 or reasonable K will call a raise. AQ & AJ probably call, plus some spew factor. Additionally 24 turns bring a straight and 9 cards pair the board maybe killing action. So H raises to $80 and takes it t down. Obviously not a bad outcome, just wasn’t sure on the play.
Thanks.
Villain bet into 7 players and then folded to barely more than a minraise on a drawy board. Very odd. Is Hero the sort of person who looks insanely strong when minraising? Very elderly perhaps?
Villain bet into 7 players and then folded to barely more than a minraise on a drawy board. Very odd. Is Hero the sort of person who looks insanely strong when minraising? Very elderly perhaps?
While hero is sexy, he’s not nitty, doesn’t have any nitty stereo typical features.
Did you have any reads on Villain this hand besides him being late 20-something white guy?
Unfortunately not. Was playing in a room I haven’t been to in a long time only had 3-4 hands in when this came up. He did have a neck tattoo for what that’s worth.
Unfortunately not. Was playing in a room I haven’t been to in a long time only had 3-4 hands in when this came up. He did have a neck tattoo for what that’s worth.
Sensing the opportunity to add to our community reads based on stereotypes...
There's a guy in my local cardroom with a neck tattoo, and he's super-aggro, to include very bluffy, but will fold like a lawn chair if anyone plays back at him.
Well you have no idea of what the other person has except it's unlikely the have a king. Raising probably gets most of what he has to fold. The board is also very dry, so not too many worries about being outdrawn.
Do you care more about taking down the pot now?
Having a chance to get stacks in?
Different people have different preferences.
Personally, you're so far ahead I'd call and check the turn. If he or she bets the turn, then re-raise. If the turn is check/check, I'd bet big on the river.
