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01-19-2020 , 11:22 PM

RhinoGuy

banned

Join Date: Jan 2019 Posts: 34

SB has about $350
hero covers
SB is a rec loose passive who plays often
hero is known as a tight reg

hero opens A

$15 on button

SB call
BB call

flop 3

($45)
checked to hero. Hero bet $30. only SB call

turn is J

($105)
SB check. hero bet $65 SB calls after a pause

river is 9

($245)
SB checks and has about pot size left

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01-19-2020 , 11:44 PM

ggodd

journeyman

Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 242

Bit more on the turn and yeah I'm jamming this river.

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01-20-2020 , 07:13 AM

ionutd

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Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 13,624

prob spewy
if he's passive he's getting to the river with stronger hands , if he's stationy he's not folding Tx
you don't need to put so much money in the pot on flop and turn but w/e

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01-20-2020 , 10:25 AM

sixsevenoff

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Join Date: Jul 2017 Posts: 5,411

Not picking, but I would've gone $25 otf, and $85 ott. I just don't see him folding the river after calling the turn unless he has a FD, and in that case we win. I check back.

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01-20-2020 , 11:42 AM

jtm1208

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Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 780

I'd go $150 on the turn to maximize your fold equity. I'd also do this with AA and KK. The plan would be to jam all Diamonds for value, check/fold all Hearts (with exception of the Queen). I would jam all black cards with the exception of the 9. JT & T9 are two common hands here that V could have for two pairs, and they wouldn't fold.

As played, on this river, I check back. pretty bad river.

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01-20-2020 , 11:44 AM

jtm1208

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Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 780

I actually don't hate just jamming the turn too. that would put V in a nasty nasty spot. You're going to get lots and lots of folds and even when called you have a ton of equity

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01-20-2020 , 01:57 PM

gobbledygeek

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Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 36,797

At these stacks I might open a smidge smaller just to give us a more playable SPR but whatever.

I would typically cbet slightly smaller to about a 1/2 PSB but whatever.

I'm fine with a double barrel here. With an overcard coming it'll be more difficult for the SB to hold onto a single underpair here. Plus we pick up some equity if we get called. Again, I'd probably go a little smaller to like just a 1/2 PSB but whatever.

I think our A high has enough showdown value to not have to bluff here as there are enough busted draws that we can simply showdown against.

GcluelessNLnoobG

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01-20-2020 , 02:07 PM

sixsevenoff

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Originally Posted by gobbledygeek

Holy ****. Idk if I've ever seen you advocate for so much aggression as a bluff before.

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01-20-2020 , 02:11 PM

gobbledygeek

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Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 36,797

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Originally Posted by sixsevenoff

Holy ****. Idk if I've ever seen you advocate for so much aggression as a bluff before.

I wouldn't consider it a bluff. We have overs + gutshot + nut flush draw; heck, this could even be a bet for value against some hands. It's a semi-bluff with awesome equity and some FE against the weaker part of his range (especially with a "scary" turn card to any small pair), plus unlikely to run into tarping hands springing a tarp (which probably mostly would have check/raised this drawy flop).

I just don't think we need to go so big on either street. The sizing of our bets (so long as they are considered reasonable) will have very little affect on whether we're called here or not, imo.

GforumaggrotardG

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01-20-2020 , 03:04 PM

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paradroid12

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Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 581

Agree with gg and 67o that sizing is off. our cbet sizing on this board should be small regardless of our holding ($20-25).

Betting turn is fine, but I don't mind checking, mainly bc I think we have less FE against this player type than normal. also, the more you bet the more likely villain (and everyone at the table) is to put you on AK. another consideration is that when you hit the river you can overbet (or raise possibly) and have a greater expectation of a call bc of villain's player type so you may not lose too much value from checking.

As played, my New Year's Resolution (for the 4th straight year) is to stop bluffing calling stations, so yeah.

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