I start with around 400, and villain easily covers (he is sitting with around 1500)-- Villain in this hand is a very good player, was an online pro before Black Friday and now plays 5-6 times a week for his living. We have one important hand of history from the session

He raised to 25 and after CO and HJ call I called with 56 of spades on the button, 5 people saw the flop and he bet 55 on a 477 board. I called, turn was a 9, he checked, I bet 125, he tanked for a couple of minutes and said he was thinking about shoving with A high before folding. He tells me if I show him he will give me a free show any time I want so I show him the 56.

Hand in question:

Pot is straddled, four limped, villain raises to 25 OTB. Since table has been very loose and no one has been folding after limping I call 25 with 45 -- Three other players call and the flop is 468 rainbow with one heart.

Action is checked to the villain, who bets 32. I raise to 87, and villain calls.

Turn is the Q, and I lead for 115. After tanking, villain says he is confused again by the hand so he is just going to call.

River is K, I have about 200 behind. Before the turn comes out he says I am honestly hoping you check river to me.

What do you guys think about the hand/what should I do on the river? I was honestly trying to represent a set the entire way because I felt he had some sort of an overpair. I feel that our recent history would make him think I am less likely to try a bluff again since I showed him and he was honestly considering going with A high against me. I am definitely shoving any 4,5,7,or heart on the river but am not sure if I should shove 100% of rivers to balance my range in any way/if there is any way he is folding?

Sorry for the long post, I thought it was an interesting hand and I am trying to get better about playing deep NL live

I get a sense that you have different objective than most on this forum, one that seems to be less interested in actually playing profitable poker.

given that it's straddled, you're not really deep. There is just too little left on the river imo. As played, I'd probably still just shove and say "Really? I was hoping you fold the turn".

Trying to bluff people off overpairs=bad idea.

Just grunch... haven't looked at the hand but this fact would terrify me to my inner soul.... big time. Game selection.

Now that I've read the whole hand... If you shoved that river... I say ... PWWND baby... Yeah... not dishing you man. I love your spirit. I suffer the same afflication sometimes. I like it.. Just select better opponnets. Or better yet. When he continuation bets and you think it is just a continutation bet... over the top him... but here. He is good enough to sniff this one out. I would call you with A high, really I would.

Seriously... your only chance on this hand is when he raises the straddle - maybe on a stesal maybe not... you go all in with 45 If you can't do this... you won't beat this player.

i think villain's range is near nutted hands (44, 66, 88, 57) or draws (79, 910, 98, 87)

flop cbet so small + callings raises screams massive strength

lil over min preflop raises mean a hand he wants to build pots with when hits
this is usually used for suited connectors, small pp
flop bet indicates he hits his range

i think you just can call on the flop and c/f rest of the streets
as played river is just easy c/f
i think there are better spots to bluff, ie. have position, have better draws, better reads

if villain didnt fold the turn i dont think hes folding the river if he didnt fold the turn
also your turn bet is sooooooooooo small

you are attempting to rep a flopped set/straight. I barrel away here without thought. you don't really have any other choice. his "speech" is a minimum of something that beats you, so we have no SD value.

Annoying is QQ/KK now became sets, but he folds AA/JJ here without much thought. Probably AQ/99/TT too. Don't think he has AK often, so just ship it in.

This is all as played fwiw, I think the line/hand is pretty spewy and going to lead to this situation way more than it won't.

Is it really that lol of a bluff spot? I just felt like he probably had an overpair most of the time here, and against an overpair we have 9 outs on the flop/17 on the turn so we definitely aren't completely dead and I feel like I play a set the same way (sometimes going c/c on the flop intending to donk turns but c/r this deep is std). The only reason I consider barreling river is that it is SUCH a bad bluff spot he might think there is absolutely no way I bluff river with any hand he beats (although obviously he's getting a pretty good price)-- I just thought it was an interesting hand, I don't usually make plays like this but when I do I like to see what people think

would you 2.5x raise with overpairs preflop on the button??
then cbet 1/4 pot on that board with overpair??
if his range is overpairs, your raise is way to small to bluff overpairs out of the pot, turn bet is small too
get bigger stacks before you try to bluff "overpairs" off a pot

i dunno how you put villain on overpairs, his range is obviously not overpairs in my eyes
There are better spots to bluff, ie. have position on villain, have nut draws, or when is his hand is nearly faced up.
You should choose your battles carefully, have an advantage before initiating fights, not go in guns blazing and hope you win.

Whats the straddle ammount? Did SB Complete? What position are you? What limit?

Im going to assume 4 dollar straddle, assume you're the SB, assume 1/2 NL, and present some simple math because whats being said in this thread is so ellohellbad.

1SB + 2BB + 4Straddle + 12(4 limpers *4) + 25 (Button Raise) + 24 (Your SB Call) + 63 (3 straddle limpers who add 21 to their original 4 dollar limps) = $131 ON THE FLOP

Checks to villain who bets $32, You raise to 87 so +174 = $305 ON THE TURN

You lead $115, villain calls $115 so +230 = $535 ON THE RIVE

you have 200 behind now meaning if you shove, villain is looking at: 735:200, or, 3.675:1

What folds getting this price OTR?

Feel free to correct my math but since i have no clue who put what money in, all my figures are based off a 10 second arbitrary assignment of who paid what into this pot.

That said - i dont mind a PF flat here since its going to be multiway as long as you fold when you miss. Its probably not the best play and considering the rest of the hand, i'd advise you personally to simply fold in these spots.

Very funny comment. I agree, a bet on the river only happens when you don't like money.

He's going to call you no matter what you bet.