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03-04-2015 , 06:52 AM
Maybe I am being results oriented or maybe not. Let me know.

Hero in this hand has about $300. V1 is a total donk station and has already been felted a few times and just moved to heros immediate left probablly for "better luck." V2 is irrelevant to this hand. This table has been pretty loose and wild and most stacks are deep so i am opening a bit bigger than normal and playing extra TAG and pot control from OOP.

Hero opens in EP to $15 with AsQs
V1 calls
V2 calls

Flop = Q23 one spade
Hero bets $20
V1 calls
V2 folds

Turn = 4s

Hero bets $30
V1 snap calls

I did not notice his stack size prior to this hand started because he was kind of masking his stack, but at this point I realized he now has about $35 left.

River = Kd

Thoughts on bet sizing?
Thoughts considering V's stack size?
River decision?

I admit I wasnt really paying attention as much as I should. Sometimes when I look at a Vs stacks I feel like it is also intimidating or a strong tell. Everytime I do that I have a good hand, but they never seem to pick up on it, lol. But if I think if I realize he only had about $60 on the turn I should have just shoved? My intial thought before realizing his stack size was to bet smallish on the turn, cause my hand is pretty much the nuts with the redraw and I want him calling super light and I am now blocking some of his 2 pair outs. Not sure if he would have called like $35 on the flop, shove on turn...I just knew I wanted a call.

So did I basically let him get there on the river with a 2 outer or am I being results oriented? Remember this guy is probablly tilted and a station so his range is probablly pretty goofy, but I will admit I should have been paying more attention, but that happens sometimes.
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03-04-2015 , 09:05 AM
OTF: bet bigger. 20 is less than half pot here. I'd bet at least 25, probably 30-35.
OTT: if you had bet more OTF, you'd now gii. As played, this is about a one third size pot bet. Too small again.
OTr: V has 35 left. Verify for sure that he isn't hiding any big Chios, and go all in if he only has 35. There's 145 in the pot. If you check and he fires, the pot will be 180 so you'll be getting 5 to one on a call, so folding won't be an option. If you bet, you might get called by worse and you deny him the chance to check back a weak Q that would call. If he bought a K, oh well. If his stack was deeper, different story.
Given Vs stack size, you want to gig on the turn here. Bet bigger on the flop. Bigger on the turn. I'd be looking to range my bets from half pot to pot sized, and I like betting slightly bigger on the flop because generally, stacks are too deep to give your opponents immediate pot odds as well as big implied odds.

But, you have an issue that goes beyond the hand. Incorporate into your pre hand routine the following: when the dealer is getting the deck ready and about to deal, look at every players stack. Do this before every hand. You'll forget to do it a lot. But doing this will help you to focus on the hand you're about to play and also give you valuable info about how to play your different opponents based on stacks. As the cards are coming out, get that good look at everybody's stack. I've just started doing this routinely and while it is hard to remember to do it every hand, I like the idea of a prehand routine and have found it very helpful in being focused to okay the hand and then in helping me to adjust my strategy during the course of the hand depending on stack sizes.
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03-04-2015 , 09:34 AM
Flop ($45) Bet $30.
Turn ($75) Villain has $55 behind - move him in. He's never folding top pair or a draw.

As played, move in. If he binked a K, move on, it's 33-50bb (are we playing $1/2 or $1/3?).

Like Dutch said, you gotta pay attention to stack sizes before you start planning your hands.
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