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Originally Posted by jambre
Consider that if we are sure of the opponents holding we can exploit it in other ways than denying proper pot odds...
For example, if we reverse the hands we probably play it better with the draw as we possibly x/r and pick up a bet OTF from the cb (not in THIS specific case of 3bettor having KQ but vs the 3bettors cb range), or call with correct odds to draw but likely pick up an extra bet from top/bottom of 3bettors range when we hit (compare this to now where we're near top of our range but aren't paying extra when the draw comes in turn/river).
Strong flush draws are generally quite profitable hands so trying to stop them from being so isn't the greatest. In practice, what likely happens when we adjust our bets to deny the FDs is we end up losing value vs weaker pairs etc and betting larger than necessary with our bluffs, or end up with an unbalanced readable bet-size where we are denying odds with value hands and not with our bluffs.
I agree with this and its mostly why I stopped just shoving all in in spots like this, but in this case when Im almost certain that villain does have a draw (a FD or JTs), a shove maybe better than betting $250.
I cant come up with another hand that this guy would play this way besides a FD, most likely a combo draw, or JTs. Honestly I dont think he would lead $150 on the flop with JTs unless its exactly JsTs which is why I would call any non spade A/9 river if he shoves. And I would bet them if he checked to me.
