2/4 NL No Cap

Hero $1350 - Hero is a prop and has a good TAG winning image at the table.
Villain $1400 (bought into game for that amount) - Villain is new to the table maybe 5 hands into session. I have played with him once before and from my recollection he is a solid player that doesn't get out of line past the flop. I also had another pro tell me that he is a good player and has been playing for a long time. he is probably in his 40's.

Table is 6 handed

Hero is BTN /w J9
Villain is CO

Villain raises to $16
Hero calls
SB and BB fold

Flop 2J3 Pot ($33)

Villain Bets $20
Hero Raises to $60
Villain Calls

Turn 2J38 Pot ($153)

Villain Checks
Hero Bets $110
Villain Calls $110

River 2J38K Pot ($373)

Villain Checks
Hero Bets $240
Villain Jams $974 and is all in

Hero?

Wow sick spot, folding river as played as I doubt villain is valueshoving worse otr. Would be a sick bluffspot with ahjx though.

Yea it was a tough spot. I thought about him having AhAx or AhJx, but my final decision to fold was that I don't think he has deep pockets and isn't getting out of line on the river here 5 hands into a session without the nuts or second nuts and ship $1400 on a missed flush draw, especially seeing that I was the only guy on the table even close to his stack size and I took a very aggressive line. I like to think It was the right fold with the information I had

in a 6 handed game id be inclined to 3b pre given stacks

not in love with the raise sizing on this flop, i think you can go bigger.

turn and river seem fine. i might not be betting as much on the river given the board run out, he is going to have Jx a lot of the time and be pretty hard pressed to call given the action on previous streets.

with your specific hand, there arent that many flush combos that you beat that can call you on this river either. considering 65s, 45s, 46s might 3b you on the flop, you really only beat 76s and 57s.

yuck. Yeah I would probably fold in game. He almost always has a flush here, and his preflop raising range has to have more flushes that beat you.


off topic, but How does your prop agreement work? Just curious.

b/f seems fine if he doesnt get out of line too often, doubt he ever merges with a rivered set

depending how wide he opens, expect to see more AXhh than other XXhh

if ive ever seen him open pre with mid/low suited connectors, i prob cringe call fwiw

I think you have to fold the 4th nuts in this polarizing of a spot. He'd have to be a sick human to pull off the check raise bluff with Ah blocker. You decision would be much harder if you had the 2nd or 3rd nuts but bet folding seems best. The flush board is going to be very obvious to the V and he is a solid player that just isn't going broke 350 bb deep with out at least the 2nd nuts.

I do think 3 betting pre has merit since you have position. It woul have to be on be larger side as it would be as a bluff, maybe to 50-56ish. Other than that I think it as played fine.

b/f seems correct here, unless you have a really good reason to believe he will open smaller suited hands.

V's line is a little funky though, because Hero should be checking a set a non zero % on the river since V can have plenty of flushes in his range as well as JJ and KhKx. I don't know, it just seems V is lighting a lot of value on fire by checking a big flush here.

I agree that turning any Ahx hand into a bluff here is super sick.

Wrong. shouldn't really take this into account. It'd be a call >> fold >>>>>>> shove with say 76hh. Question is whether or not villain can turn ahxx into s bluff 350bb deep.

Good fold on the river. He would really have to be a sick human being to shove river there as a blocker bluff. He almost always has it.

What sizing do you think I should be raising flop here? 75-85?
As far as the river goes I just can't see a player that is known to play a "solid' game that just sit's at the table to Bluff shove Ax for 350bb. I think almost always he has AK,AQ,AT ,KQ,KT, type hands.


I make 20/hr 40/hrs a week and just play poker until the game fills. sometimes there won't be a game so I get to sit there and grind online or study all day and get paid 20/hr. Pretty sweet gig actually but there are it's downsides for sure.

I haven't played with him enough to make that call on the river imo. If I had played with him more and knew his range better and style of play I would be more inclined to call but with the information I had I think I had to fold here.

In this spot with this specific hand against a lot of players I would 3bet pre but against an unknown I seem to like to take a more cautious approach until I get more familiar with their playing style.

The check raise on the river threw me off as well. But from what I've learned at these stakes a check raise on the river is almost 100% the nuts or close to it.


Thanks to everyone for their replies!

I think it's a good laydown. Obviously he could be sick enough to do this with just the Ah (AJhx, AAhx) but without info on him spazzing like that in the past we just have to fold.

Edit: FWIW I also don't think he ever does this with a K-high flush, given that he's more often than not going to get called by an A-high flush, and he's very rarely going to get value from a Q-high flush or worse.

For everyone saying he's going to check-shove with a 7-high flush, I think his far more likely option is to call. OP will fold his made hands (i.e. sets/2p/weak flushes) and call with his best flushes.

If V is x/r light repeatedly, we can exploit this by widening our calling range otr, and also by checking back weaker hands that we want to get to showdown.

I think it's a fold. Very small chance he does this with a worse flush and very small chance he does this as a blocker bluff.

he can have a bunch more combos than that tbh, but i guess thats not really the point.

i would make it 75 personally. vs a bet/calling range on this flop id prefer to bloat the pot when i have a lot of equity and then slow down on future streets.

i actually think that a better bet sizing on the river is in the 130-175 range given how the board runs out here.