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Originally Posted by Yamihere
I was reaching for less, my inclination was to go with $100. Which if he had $300+ back, I would have done in a heartbeat. But when I looked at his stack, it was a bit of a mess and I misjudged it to be around $140, and if I were value betting, I'm not putting a player 70% all in, I'm going for it all under the assumption that if they are calling 70% of their stack, they are probably willing to put it all in. Whereas sizing at something like $75 seemed to be inviting a hero call from something like AK. So it was a bit of an uncomfortable SPR combined with a misread on my part. Maybe I should have just aborted last minute. I'm pretty good at assessing stack sizes when I'm taking on the aggressor role on the turn, but it is a bit of a leak in my game that faced with turn bets I sometimes call too quickly without fully thinking about what the opposition has behind. If I had been the bettor on the turn, I would have been betting $60 and that would have set up a river with $200 in the pot and $155 behind, a more straightforward shoving option. But I let him dictate the flop and turn size.
Maybe a min-raise on the turn would have been a better sizing? Then I can proceed forward with a shove on the river with a slightly more than half-pot effective. That may increase the incentive to call if I choose to bluff the river, but it also gives me a lot more two-pair/sets in addition to the BDFD to my story. So a tougher fold size-wise but maybe that is outweighed by me having a lot more hands that beat JJ. And if he ships the turn, I get away easily only losing $40 more instead of $175 more. I'll have to think on that.
I don't think the stack size is the problem here. The problem is just what I said - your line doesn't make a lot of sense, and looks like the typical stabbing many low-stakes players will do on the river when their opponents check.
Low stakes players typically check the river with showdown value, but they're checking to check-call, not check-fold.
Your nut and second-nut flushes are combos that are likely to have 3B pre. Maybe you smooth call with the worst AX combos, and KJ, but that's not very many combos, and a lot of those just fold on the flop.
The rest of your flushes were combo draws on the flop or turn, and would want to raise flop or turn, at least some of the time, assuming you're never 3B'ing any of them pre. If you actually had a flush, you'd be more likely to bet smaller, because your opponent caps his range when he checks the river.
It's hard to credit you with Jd9d here, because that combo mostly folds on the flop. Your most likely value combos are just 6d5d and 9d7d. You're basically repping one, maybe two combos for thick value here.
Since you posted a reverse hand history, look at it from JJ's point of view. BTN isn't likely to get to the river with random QX. T8 raises turn. Maybe BTN runs into Q8, but how often does Q8 call pre, call flop, call turn, and then jam river?
Like I said, your line just isn't very credible.