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09-26-2018 , 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by HawkesDave
I like bet/fold here, too. Seems like the type of player who's going to check-back all but the nuttiest of hands. I think a smaller sizing seems better here, it feels pretty thin. Maybe repeat the $225. It doesn't sound like he's a good enough player to bluff shove over a small bet, and if he raises it's a lot cheaper to get away. There's also a chance you fold him out of the bottom of his range if you bet too much.
+1. This is a standard bet/fold for me vs this player type. Given you CR the turn, you have boats in your range too so V would be crazy to raise without the nuts here. In fact, he might simply call with a lot of boats that beat you as well. Combo wise we beat a lot more hands than we lose too and all of those hands check back which sucks.

As long as you don't think that V is capable of turning JT or a hand like AQ into a bluff, I think b/f around $300 seems optimal.
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09-26-2018 , 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeStarr
I just couldnt find a hand that he could play this way that would call a $225+ river bet with that doesnt beat me so I checked. He checked back and mucked. I didnt see his hand.

After the fact, when you win a hand like this you wonder if betting would've been better, but we will never know. Its thin for sure, but maybe hes bad enough to call $225 with QJ/QT/JT.
Saw this after I posted. Seems pretty standard to me that V will check behind JT and all lower flushes when the board pairs. Who knows...maybe you lost value/maybe you didn't. I just think are a ton of hands that V calls with that you beat and he only raises a very narrow range so you can safely fold. Really only "value own" hands he can have where he just calls your river bet are 99 and 88.
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09-26-2018 , 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by shorn7
Saw this after I posted. Seems pretty standard to me that V will check behind JT and all lower flushes when the board pairs. Who knows...maybe you lost value/maybe you didn't. I just think are a ton of hands that V calls with that you beat and he only raises a very narrow range so you can safely fold. Really only "value own" hands he can have where he just calls your river bet are 99 and 88.
I dont disagree at all.
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