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Originally Posted by stepierc
Does he understand position and what do you think his range is like calling a 5x the bb raise. I do not think he has anything that beats you in his range that he would not raise with pre flop. More likely he is being a bully. I think it is worth it here to raise him on the flop to 50$ do not let him get to the turn where he can really put pressure on you and a raise from you would likely commit your stack anyway.
Cliff Notes: Raise on flop to gauge his strength his bet on the turn could either represent great strength or a bluff and he has you in a position where to continue means most likley putting most of your chips in the middle.
I know he's a decent player, understands position, I don't think "5xBB raise" means much in a 1-2 game, to anybody, no offense. I would definitely Not discount any and all sets to be in his range, but also wouldn't discount any straight+flush draws, nut draws, and pair+draws, really Any kind of draw. Obv 22 becomes slightly less likely with the turn, and one could argue that as soon as the board pairs I should probably just give up with just top pair No kicker.
I Could raise otf, but I'd Rather turn a back door club draw n shove to a bet or get there cheaper than if I "bloat" the pot otf and he happens to lead out turn, still putting Me to a decision, even tho I agree a raise otf gives me charge of the hand while still being IP, a bit of information about his strength even tho I'm mostly likely getting Called by 95+% of his range, and am most likely being checked to ott.
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Originally Posted by 22dueces22
it sucks that you have this knowledge that V likes to push action.
I think calling is terribad, simply because of the situation you put yourself in on the river...so i think fold>>jam>>>>>>>>>>call.
At the beginning of a sesh, I'm leaning towards a fold...wayyyyy better spots.
Even if we are ahead now, there are still a bunch of cards we dont like.
I agree calling ott is the worst. Which is why, knowing he can be quite aggro at times, I elect to shove my $170 into his $50 bet and put him to a decision instead of seeing a multitude of river cards that I don't like. I can't argue a simple fold ott, but given my knowledge of the player, and feeling like the turn bet size was kind of sizable and trying to push me out (despite the pot size), and I Def don't think he's betting more than half PS if he filled up, IF he even bets at all. 66/77/88 definitely crossed my mind, and scares me when the turn pairs deuces, but I figured he would open with hands like that which is why I shove..
The Only reason I wouldNT hate a call ott, is so that I can Rep a flush otr when a dimnd falls and he checks to me, or if I think I'm possibly ahead I at least have some decent showdown value. Tho I'm not sure I have many bets other than to shove if I want to rep the flush :/
I shoved turn, he takes about 20--25 seconds to reluctantly call.
River 7
. I show, he shows 99.. good start...rebuy!