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Back from a live session. Pls give help on how to extract $ from tight players.. Back from a live session. Pls give help on how to extract $ from tight players..

06-01-2014 , 01:41 AM
Hey guys I am an online player trying to make the switch to live.
Had a decent session but I am finding that 8 out of 9 people on each table are playing extremely tight...
What is my best play on extracting money from these types of tables? I'm sure there is a thread on this if someone could point me in the right direction I would really appreciate it.
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06-01-2014 , 01:43 AM
It depends ... but raise more often preflop (ie: liberally) until the table adjusts then tighten up and get called down light with the goods.
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06-01-2014 , 01:58 AM
Figure out if these players are tight preflop only and calling stations post flop or if they're nitty postflop too playing fit or fold.

If the players get sticky post flop with their tight preflop ranges then you should cbert less and look for value bet spots to make money.

If it's the latter you can make good money by continuation betting and double barreling on the right boards. Vs lots of tight villains you can successfully triple barrel but this is higher variance. Bet \fold works great at these tables so long as you do it with both bluffs and value hands.
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06-01-2014 , 02:09 AM
So against tighter fairly straight forward post fit or folds should be loosen up our pre flop range and get post flop with them lots?

The near best player at our casino who is constantly sitting on 2 grand stacks at the 1 / 2 almost every day has such a wide opening range. He is also leading in to people in multiway pots post flop out of position. I've been taught this is -ev but he always is killing it... Kind of confused
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06-01-2014 , 02:40 AM
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Originally Posted by JackInDaCrak
Figure out if these players are tight preflop only and calling stations post flop or if they're nitty postflop too playing fit or fold.

If the players get sticky post flop with their tight preflop ranges then you should cbert less and look for value bet spots to make money.

If it's the latter you can make good money by continuation betting and double barreling on the right boards. Vs lots of tight villains you can successfully triple barrel but this is higher variance. Bet \fold works great at these tables so long as you do it with both bluffs and value hands.
This is pretty good advice.
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06-01-2014 , 02:43 AM
Listen to the first two posts. I've have a lot of very nitty regs call me down three streets with top pair because I isolate wide and Cbet a lot and on occasion run huge bluffs. They usually pick the wrong spots to bluff catch. And for the nits who don't adjust, keep bluffing them
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06-01-2014 , 02:50 AM
Good advice concerning preflop and postflop range tendencies. Generally avoid games with tight players as you will ultimately make more playing against other styles.
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06-01-2014 , 03:15 AM
Good hand readers could put themselves in many ostensibly -EV spots in live 1/2 and 1/3 games and still be profitable.

As to your question you should just be having an extremely wide opening range and barreling off if they're also nitty post flop (which is usually the case).
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06-01-2014 , 04:00 AM
Thank you for your responses.

So if we trust in our post flop play and reading, playing lag can be more profitable? I'm scared to go back to trying that.. But that being said I do understand villain ranges and which boards to bet etc way more than I did before.

I just see no hope in being profitable vs these nits playing the same tight game as them...

And if I decide to play during the day only 1 table is going with nothing but these old players.
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06-01-2014 , 05:40 AM
Raise extremely wide, cbet 100% of flops, shut down immediately if called, and c/f the rest of the hand.

These guys will know what you are doing, but they will each wait for either the nuts, and slowplay ya, or they will wait for someone else to play back at you.
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06-01-2014 , 05:54 AM
This winning player was betting flops 3 ways out of. Position. Is this honestly profitable in the long run? I guess if we have correct reads people are folding enough..

How do we continue with this lag style once they exploit our cbetting by calling it on the flop? We now play tag and cbet premiums for value?
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06-01-2014 , 06:01 AM
Yeah, don't be so quick to assume they are adjusting to you though. If they call the flop then bet OTT or OTR, you just ran into a monster. Since you are c/f after being called, wait until you see unusual hands at SD before switching up to TAG.
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06-01-2014 , 09:34 AM
Find a better game first if you can. Live poker is very slow and you need some rec players to make it worthwhile. If your live game demographics seem anywhere near to what your online was, the game isnt worth playing.

Having said all that, if this is your game and you will play in it regular, then rob the tight players by reading hands well and fold many strong hands that figure to be behind.

Their reward for playing so tight is trapping others to call with what seem to be strong hands, but fall short. Rob them of that privilege. Its devastating when you raise with JJ in EP and a nit 3 bets you right to your left and you just muck it. It cuts him off at the knees.
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06-01-2014 , 10:31 AM
Try to find a softer table. When you're just starting out you want to play TAG first. You need to LAG it up against tighter players but that takes a lot more experience and will cost you a lot of money while you're learning.
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06-01-2014 , 04:46 PM
great advice guys, thanks alot.

While I will bring a few buyins to my live games, I'm going to try playing my first buyin a laggy in position style. If I lose that buyin I'll switch it up to my tag game that I feel more secure with.

Does anyone have some good threads or links to studying a profitable lag game? I can't find too much on it other than the basics describing what it is.
I'd like more info on reacting to pressure post flop, good boards to cbet etc etc..
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06-01-2014 , 05:02 PM
This is nothing others haven't already said but your thread title made me think of the following advice:

When you're up against tight players, think less about extracting money and more about stealing money.
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