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Aspers, London 1/1 AK OOP One Villain Aspers, London 1/1 AK OOP One Villain

08-04-2012 , 07:03 PM
My first post on 2+2 not been playing long but always looking to improve. This is my sixth live session and only played a little on the internet before this.

The situation

£1-£1 6-8-handed, I've been at the table about 3 hours and have been playing fairly tight. Before this hand I've only turned over two hands, AQs which was the winner and AJs which lost in a pre-flop all in against 99. I have £160 in front of me

Villain has been at the table about 60-90 mins. He's been playing pretty loose and aggressive. Doesn't seem to be that positionally aware and seems to play a pretty wide range of hands. Seems to c-bet quite a bit as well. Villain has me covered in chips.

The hand

Action limps around to the Villain in the CO and he raises to £8.

Button folds and the Hero is in the SB with AK and raises to £26.

Everyone folds except the Villain who calls.

Pot: £56
Flop comes 474

I think about c-betting for about 10-15 seconds as I don't see what hand that calls my raise pre-flop has hit this board except for a diamond draw. In the end however I decide not in case he has an over pair or re-raises me. So I check.

Villain bets £20. Seems a pretty small bet to me considering the pot size and I think to myself that I have over cards and a back door nut flush draw so I call. Also as I perceive him as loose and aggressive I think he could have nothing

Turn A

Pot: £96
Board now 474A

I think whoop I've made a pair and bet it £40. Villain raises me all in.

It's at this point I would like some constructive criticism. Hero?
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08-04-2012 , 07:39 PM
calls..you hit your card.

i woulda made preflop 3bet little bigger knowing he is loose and will call. maybe 30.

id also prob c-bet but understand why you didnt, saw a turn for cheaper and hit.

I guess my question would be, What is your thinking calling the flop bet if when you hit your card you wont get it in?

even tho he is a looser player, hard to put him on many 4s here given the 3bet.
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08-04-2012 , 10:30 PM
Call. V probably has 56dd, 56hh, or AQ/Ak/AJ. Tough to put them on a 4 or 77
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08-05-2012 , 05:03 AM
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Originally Posted by jazzarello
calls..you hit your card.

i woulda made preflop 3bet little bigger knowing he is loose and will call. maybe 30.

id also prob c-bet but understand why you didnt, saw a turn for cheaper and hit.

I guess my question would be, What is your thinking calling the flop bet if when you hit your card you wont get it in?

even tho he is a looser player, hard to put him on many 4s here given the 3bet.
Good question to ask and I honestly didn't ask myself that when I called the flop bet. I was thinking so much about what he could have and my outs and didn't really think about what I would do if I hit. Definitely something to remember for next time.
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08-05-2012 , 05:36 AM
PF: ok, flop is fine if you have a plan (bluff good cards and get paid when hitting).

Turn I hate the bet - it screams to villain 'I hit'. I rather CRAI. Stack sizes were missing from your post, but I assume you're not stupidly deep. Once he has raise your bet I think you have to call, again unless you're very deep.
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08-05-2012 , 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by nota bene
PF: ok, flop is fine if you have a plan (bluff good cards and get paid when hitting).

Turn I hate the bet - it screams to villain 'I hit'. I rather CRAI. Stack sizes were missing from your post, but I assume you're not stupidly deep. Once he has raise your bet I think you have to call, again unless you're very deep.
I put my stack in the OP but not his.

I had £160 and he had around £250 at the start of the start of the hand.

How deep would I need to be to consider folding?
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08-05-2012 , 07:23 AM
Got to get it in all day here. I agree a CRAI is better OTT but if your read is right it's a perfect card for him to try and barrel you off TT-KK. I expect to be good very often here.

Re: being deep enough to fold, I'd say 200BBs+. You're obviously not going to stack off with TPTK when you're that deep but here I think it's OK.
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08-05-2012 , 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Suits
I put my stack in the OP but not his.

I had £160 and he had around £250 at the start of the start of the hand.

How deep would I need to be to consider folding?
Apparently I didn't read carefully enough... Anyway, it's a snap call with that stack, as played.


I'm not considering folding until I'm 250BB deep here. And that deep it would be horribad to bet this turn as it leaves you not having control of what happens in a pot where you're unsure of where you are. It's very likely you are ahead, but 77 is definitely in his range, maybe AA and depending on the player he might have called too much pf with a sc that includes a 4.
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08-05-2012 , 08:12 AM
SNAP SNAP SNAP

I agree that crai is a nice line, although people are overthinking a little here, he is definitely NOT bluffing you off a PP when you fire £40 on the the turn, he has TPGK or TPwithFD

Of course you could of been unlucky and walked into a monster as by your description villian is a total donk, (positionally unaware always the smoking gun) 45s, 34s, 77, but so what its a cooler, and as played you must must ship.

You seem fairly compos, poker will be good to you!

gl
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08-06-2012 , 07:30 AM
Thanks all for the replies, all very helpful in increasing my poker knowledge.

Just to finish this off, I thought for around a minute and then called.

Villain turned over 24 and the river was a J

In hindsight, I should have known he was strong from the way he bet. Previous to his hand he was throwing out chips everywhere but when he put me all in he handled the chips in a very controlled way, in that classic weak=strong way.

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Originally Posted by bananapeel
You seem fairly compos, poker will be good to you!

gl
I'm not sure what compos means but I'm assuming it's a compliment, so thanks!
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08-08-2012 , 12:13 PM
compos mentis--latin for "of sound mind"
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08-08-2012 , 12:32 PM
more pre, cbet flop, turn bet is bad, call now.
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08-08-2012 , 12:43 PM
I think this is probably a call here but one thing to think about for future hands: Villain can't have any nut-flush draw since both the A and A are accounted for. That's somewhat bad, since it removes some of the NFD-ish hands that we're ahead of.

Still, on this board, vs this opponent, I think this is a sigh-call because there are so many hands villain could be doing this with that we're still ahead of.

When villain raises, then calls your £26 pre-flop 3-bet with 42s and hits, sigh, reload and proceed to take the drooler to value-town and beat him like a rented donkey the rest of the night.
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08-08-2012 , 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by bananapeel
compos mentis--latin for "of sound mind"
In that case thanks was definitely the correct response!

As for poker being good to me, it hasn't yet. I'm £350 down after my six sessions and don't really have the BR to keep playing at the moment
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