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AQ in straddled pot turn decision AQ in straddled pot turn decision

02-09-2016 , 01:26 PM
Game is 1/2

Hero: Stack size is 280
V1: STack size 180, only played with him for a few hands but seems fishy
V2: stack size 320, decent regular

Pot is straddled to 5 in this hand.

Hero is UTG and raises to 16 with AcQh, V1 calls in SB, v2 calls from straddle
Pot is 50

Flop Qs Ts 4d

checked to hero who bets 30, v1 check raises to 60, v2 calls, hero calls

Pot 230

Turn 4c

v1 checks, v2 checks, Hero???

Hero remaining stack is 204, do we shove here? There are a lot of draws that are out there and if we bet and are raised we cant really fold in my view
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02-09-2016 , 01:34 PM
$20 pre. Shove flop, shove turn.
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02-09-2016 , 01:53 PM
Decent reg should release marginal draws on the flop x/r and board is wet enough I'd expect him to repop with a set. So I think he's most likely on a combo draw.

Fishy players tend to be passive, so I expect the x/r to be a real hand. But then he checks the turn. Fishy players slow play poorly and also get mubsy on paired boards, so I don't think the turn action narrows his range much. Might be a combo draw, might be a boat. Might be something in between. QT would fit the action pretty perfectly I think.

I really don't think shoving here is right. Both hands might be draws, but I think there's a good chance someone has something better than TPTK. Shoving eliminates any further information and our positional advantage.

I check it back and eval river card and action.

I'd go a bit larger pre, given the straddle. Say 22ish, but that's relatively minor.
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02-09-2016 , 02:58 PM
I'm not sure I like the pre bet. I'm OOP. The problem with raising pre OOP into the field is the pot gets big quickly and we don't know how good our hand is. What hands happily call $20.00 bet pre?

Flop is checked to us, and we feel compelled to bet still OOP as we have top pair. Of course there is a raise. Now we're in a fix, because we have no idea if we are good or not. The raise is small enough to force us to call even though V1 may be setting himself up for an all in on the turn.

Turn is same issue only now the pot is brimming with chips. If we bet, a raise (likely All In) may follow (rinse and repeat), and what do we do?

I'm stepping off the yellow brick road and checking the turn and check folding river, saving what chips I have left for a better hand position.
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02-09-2016 , 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by wj94
$20 pre. Shove flop, shove turn.
Yeah this given the SPR we can't really bet/fold turn though i would like to if we were deeper. 20 pre always if straddled or playing 2/5.

He is prolly x-raising with a worse Qx and is trying to get to showdown or some sets which boated up, either way he has no bluffs but you have worse hands that you beat in his range.

I don't mind xing in this spot either because if the flush comes in and he starts betting we can fold and he may still call us with all his weaker Qx if he x given the pot size too.
Also if river bricks he may just x his Qx and try and let us bluff at the pot given we xed back the turn. Depends on his river tendencies does he like to just bet a lot of things for value or x-call some strongish hands in his range and try to induce some bluffs.

If i had reads that this villain never x-raised worse OTF then i would fold the flop cause people are that bad at LLSNL and x-raises are the nuts at the micros.

Last edited by Evoxgsr96; 02-09-2016 at 03:11 PM.
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