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06-05-2014 , 01:07 AM
1-2 Game Just moved to table,fairly deep, huge fish with over 1000

Hero: LAG been fairly quite in the first 2 orbits good bit of history with villain should have a good idea of how aggressive i can be.

Villain: 30's asian guy, semi tag reg. Will limp it up with some garbage here and there. Really nothing interesting about his play at all, he seems to avoid me and doesnt join in the table banter ever.

Hero sb,$600
Villain cutoff, $400

4 limps before me in the sb with AQo. I make it 25 to go, EP calls, Villain in cutoff calls.

Flop:
A-A-T rainbow.

hero bets 35, EP folds, Villain calls

Turn 9x

hero makes it 60, villain calls

River 2x

hero bets 100
Too thin? Bet sizing? Is his hand as transparent as it looks to me as Ax worse than me?

Last edited by jackkpot; 06-05-2014 at 01:23 AM.
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06-05-2014 , 01:09 AM
How are you acting last every street from the sb?
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06-05-2014 , 01:19 AM
You are a lag and villain knows it so this isn't thin at all.

Sizing is too player dependent to give or take advice here imo.
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06-05-2014 , 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by ValueBluff
How are you acting last every street from the sb?
Thanks fixed it.
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06-05-2014 , 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by RED FACE
You are a lag and villain knows it so this isn't thin at all.

Sizing is too player dependent to give or take advice here imo.
I see your point.
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06-05-2014 , 01:31 AM
I think sizing is way too small. You're betting like 1/3 pot. Vs don't really fold trips, especially trip Aces. Pot is like 150 on turn, I'm betting 100ish. Pot will then be 350 on river and you can shove.
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06-05-2014 , 01:57 AM
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Originally Posted by ValueBluff
I think sizing is way too small. You're betting like 1/3 pot. Vs don't really fold trips, especially trip Aces. Pot is like 150 on turn, I'm betting 100ish. Pot will then be 350 on river and you can shove.
do you think that your allowing every hand that we beat besides AJ to make a fold on the turn? I realized my bet sizing wasnt so standard, and thats why i posted this hand.
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06-05-2014 , 04:21 AM
I like the flop sizing. With a LAG image I like x/r the turn. Especially if you are capable of making moves and have bluffed villain or he has seen you bluff on polarized boards. If it checks through I bomb river for PSB. The way you played it is fine, but I bet way bigger on the turn with a laggy image. Once he calls his range is weighted towards the case A, underpairs, 10x, and some gutshots. Go for the top of that range. Probably 80-85 turn. 135-145 riv
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06-05-2014 , 04:41 AM
I agree with op that 35 on flop then 100 on turn is too transparent.

If hero bets 100 on turn and villain raises all in for 240 more do we call? I would much rather call a raise after betting 60 than 100.

I feel that a 100 bet skews our perceived range to very big aces while a 60 bet is more likely to be perceived as including any ace and JJ+ and maybe others.

I guess it comes down to questions like, how often does villain call a 100 bet on the turn vs how often he calls a 60 bet on the turn while holding TJ, etc.
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06-05-2014 , 07:54 AM
shove river, looks like a bluff especially when youre LAG. he will call with any ace and hopefully doesnt have a boat.
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06-05-2014 , 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by sheled007
shove river, looks like a bluff especially when youre LAG. he will call with any ace and hopefully doesnt have a boat.
Like the river shove, although I think he still manages a fold a good portion of the time. Don't know if he thinks I river jam bluff very frequently at all.
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06-05-2014 , 09:33 AM
My opinion the sizing should be half pot on flop, 70% on turn and 75-80% on river / fold. (If stacks allow)


HP bets are neutral regarding strength and on the river he isnt folding AAA nor bluff raising.
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06-09-2014 , 11:14 AM
Flop c-bet should be at least $40 to set up stacks easily for a bet/bet/shove line against a weaker Ax hand.
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06-09-2014 , 11:57 AM
Bet sizing is OK. Maybe bet a little more on each street. If they're calling $35 otf they'll most likely call $50.
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