I have been playing at the table for at least 3 hours at this point and am playing v lag style raising and c betting often with a wide range. Table is aware of this and numerous comments have been made when some of my hands go to showdown.
Stakes are £1 £1 hero has ~500
Villain 1 has ~700 and has shown on numerous occasions that he is more than willing to play big pots with marginal holdings. His hand reading ability is basic he dosnt get out of line too often but overplays top pair etc his limp call range is v wide he's not v aggressive pre flop.
Villain 2 has 95~ and is a Asian woman in her 30s who is a complete fish calling pre often and chasing any draw.

game is 9 handed with a straddle to £2. villain 1 limps as do 3 others including villain 2, hero is button with A Q (a of diamonds) and makes it £15.
villain 1 and 2 are only callers.
Flop is Qs 10d 5d
Checks to hero who leads £25,
villain 1 quickly makes it £50 and v2 calls.
Action back on hero what is best play and why?

Call. Don't want the pot to spiral out of control with TPTK deep. V2 likely has FD, so prob folding if more diamonds hit, and pot controlling (c/c) bricks, re-eval if SD comes in or V1 bets big.

FYP


- V1 has a draw or a weak Q quite often (sometimes even worse)

- the presence of V2 is almost meaningless due to her stack size

- you have position so raise to £165 (obviously folding if V1 shoves)

- if V1 calls, and V2 shoves (which is almost inevitable) the pot will be £460 and you'll have £320 making any safe turn an easy shove

- this view will not be popular

- if V1 calls and then shoves the turn I'd probably let it go (even if it is a diamond)

- if the turn is a diamond and he checks to you I'd probably just check behind and soul read the river

- also I'd make my flop bet larger

Reraise if you don't think villain can get away from a worse queen 500bbs deep on the flop, otherwise call and bet big if checked to on blanks. Good chance he'll put you on a flush draw and it'll be harder for him to get away from Qx.

Agree with betting larger flop but why do you think worse than TPGK raises there? This seems like a blueprint for bloating a pot and only ever getting it in bad.

I'm fine just flatting and reavaluating ott. raising is going to really bloat this pot and even though he overplays tp, getting 500bb in with tptk will rarely be profitable

This!!!

...because I've played thousands of hands and I know that this is a weak Q or a draw a very large percentage of the time. Ask the question, does a set or 2P really make a quick min-raise here?

ime yes

I guess the 'dynamic' is different where we play.

The game is pretty much the same everywhere, sure there are small differences here and there but a quick min-raise is a quick min-raise anywhere.

People who are saying raise/fold villain 1 min raise are we not turning our AQ into a bluff??
He is over valuing tpgk alot but he is not putting 500bb in with KQ imo.
I think only hands that crush us or have ok equity call when we raise also if he goes crazy with a flush draw and shoves on our raise are we then suppose to fold? I like flatting the min-raise and evaluating turn, I do think that his min raise looks weak but i still dont love making the pot huge with one pair.

Only one person is saying raise/fold...

We're raising for value (not as a bluff.) You can get called by KQ, QJ, KJ, J9, Kd9d, Jd8d, 9d8d. If he comes back over the top of your raise you're most likely dead (or at best up against an OEFD BUT you said he's not that aggressive.)

...another misconception in this thread is that we're 500bbs deep. It's a straddled pot and therefor we are 250bbs deep.