1/3 NLHE 9 handed.

Game is playing tightish with a few good regs in there on deep stacks and some less good players also pretty deep. Hero and V are the short stacks, Hero with 500, main V with ~400.

main V - never seen him before, MAAG. Have been with him at the table about an hour and he's playing way too many hands and also making light calls post. He plays fairly passive. His post-flop game has been to either x/fold or donk in every hand. UTG. ~400

HH: Folds to hero in CO who opens A8s, only main V calls out of blinds. HU. Flop A-K-Qr. V donks, hero calls. Turn 4os. V leads again, hero calls not liking it. River 6os. main V checks and hero checks back and we chop with his A8os.

side V - never seen him before, very passive player. Has been playing tighter. Covers both of us. He is very quiet and plays face up post. BTN. Covers both of us.

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BTN straddles, SB folds, BB folds, Main V limps, one other limp, Hero opens to 30 from CO with A Q, side V calls next to act off his straddle, main V calls.

Flop 90 - Q T 8

main V leads 30, Hero raises to 90, side V folds, main V calls. --- I was thinking this could be a ton of pair+draw type hands and hearts and I just have to raise.

Turn 270 - 7

main V checks, Hero asks for a count of his stack - 267$ - Hero jams.

What are you trying to get called by?

Definitely just call the flop

I think the flop could be call or raise. Good chance I would probably raise here as well. I don't like the turn jam though. I would bet around $100. With the jam all draws likely fold and 2p and sets all call.

Without reads flop raise seems bad, with the read he either x/f or donks it seems even worse ... although with the A8o hand history, meh. It's 3 ways on this flop, so maybe donks are tighter but then there are a decent number of worse hands he might have, and blocking Ah might not matter as much.

Lots of mights there, if you have any reads on how he plays value vs. like 7h6h or even KhJh/Kh9h would help a lot. Also anything on how he has reacted to raises of his donks (guessing not many people have done it).
Seems significantly worse with even KQ, and would be happier doing it with KK. Still seems borderline without more reads.

I don't mind the play. You are beat a decent amount of time though and it is a question how wide he calls.

It's also significant you re holding the Ah, so he doesn't have the nut flush draw.

Whatever dumb hand he donks with

I hadn't seen his donking hands at showdown other than the A8. He even wanted to triple barrel that in the HH but decided to just check river. Checked like he was unhappy about the check. He had donked his entire continuing range. As in he either x/folds or donks (seems to always be OOP but small sample size). His donks had never been raised but called down a bit and he would keep barrelling, people always folded turn or river..usually on draws themselves. His range is quite wide as he has been VPIPing wide so he can flop all 2pair here, sets are unlikely as I'd expect those to open pre, I doubt he'd donk as wide as 78. It's something like:

Behind: J9, QT, Q8, T8 (37 combos)

Ahead: QJ, JT, T9, KXhh, QXhh, maybe a few combos of naked hh like 67hh. (about 40 combos)

I'd say call flop and let him triple barrel his mediocre value hands. He could easily fold those now. If he checks, you can take over the betting.

Then I prefer a smaller turn bet so those combos he continues with have less equity or just let the guy go bet bet bet. Becauae from what you are saying the equity on your turn bet with what he calls a shove with is kind of close. Im not a fan of lines like that with high variance vs fish unless its a line that makes you look like the fish to them when they see your cards. Best line vs a lot of these maniacs wwhen you hold strong or great hands is call call raise. Or call call call.

ProPokerTools Odds Oracle Results (2.3 Professional)
Holdem, Generic syntax
Board - QdTh8h
PLAYER_1 AhQc
PLAYER_2 J9, QT, Q8, T8, QJ, JT, T9, K:hh, Q:hh
84150 trials (exhaustive)


All-in Equity

	Equity %	Wins Hi %	Ties Hi %	Wins Hi Count	Ties Hi Count
AhQc	45.2294%	44.5526%	1.3535%	37491	1139
J9, QT, Q8, T8, QJ, ...	54.7706%	54.0939%	1.3535%	45520	1139

ProPokerTools Odds Oracle Results (2.3 Professional)
Holdem, Generic syntax
Board - QdTh8h7s
PLAYER_1 AhQc
PLAYER_2 J9, QT, Q8, T8, QJ, JT, T9, K:hh, Q:hh
3740 trials (exhaustive)


All-in Equity

	Equity %	Wins Hi %	Ties Hi %	Wins Hi Count	Ties Hi Count
AhQc	45.0535%	45.0535%	0.0000%	1685	0
J9, QT, Q8, T8, QJ, ...	54.9465%	54.9465%	0.0000%	2055	0

FWIW I'm suspicious of this range given he wanted to fire three barrels with A8o on AKQ ... Eg. where is KQ in the above?

i wouldnt raise the flop multiway

as played turn only gets called by better hands. i guess you shut out weak draws so maybe thats what you wanted?

Result:

That sound right.

This game doesn't sound like it is in my wheelhouse, with lots of deepstacks and good regs. Is it in your wheelhouse? If not, I would get a table change button.

I'm fine with preflop.

Kinda awkward flop spot, imo. The SPR is a rather small ~4 and we've got TPTK on a very drawy board. I mean, you could argue we should lean towards committing here ASAP, especially against a guy who seems to donk fairly weakish hands. So even though it isn't the greatest flop, I can get behind a flop raise to shove a safe turn.

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