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07-04-2023 , 12:41 PM
2/3 NL. I open AsQc UTG for 10 and only the button calls. We both have about 500. I have only played with him for about an hours. He has been tight and hasn't been involved in many hands. I have no other reads.

AhKc3s....I bet 7 and he calls.

AhKc3sJc...How do you proceed?
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07-04-2023 , 12:42 PM
against an unknown i check the turn. i also bet 2/3 pot on the flop as neither worse aces nor kings will fold to that bet.

as an aside, im also still experimenting with how to play these hands UTG. ive tried opening small, opening bigger, and limp/3betting (each session i try a different strategy). limp 3 betting i think i like least because it seems to turn my hand face up. what have you found by opening fairly small here?
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07-04-2023 , 01:09 PM
I would limp in but our super small raise somehow got this HU to a very high SPR, so if that's the expected result, fine.

Against loose fish we could probably just bet/fold each street small. But against tighter players that haven't been involved in many hands, that's a bit more meh-ish. On a fairly drawless board, I'd much rather induce overvalue/bluffs by check/calling, so I would often check this flop against a tight player.

Ditto thinking for the turn, which is even worse as now even AJ/KJ/QT gets there.

In general, OOP against tight players (and especially if we have a tight image ourselves), I'd lean to some checks and be aiming to either get 2 streets of value or hope our show of weakness causes him to bluff/overvalue. Betting for 3 straight streets in this scenario is rarely going to get looked up by worse by a tight player, ime.

ETA: So I'm checking the turn. If he checks back the turn, I put in a river value bet. If he bets the turn, I call and check/evaluate the river (and I think there is some argument for folding if this guy has been fairly ABC depending on sizing).

GcluelessNLnoobG
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07-04-2023 , 01:09 PM
I like checking turn. A few hands we were ahead of now beat us and we can delay value to river in a check check turn line.
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07-05-2023 , 12:04 AM
Liking a check for pot control. Flop seems fine. Could go bigger on the flop. Or could go small and plan to bomb turn on a blank.

Now losing to AJ, KJ, QT. Have a nice hand to check call, check call. Or if turn checks through you can value bet river.
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07-05-2023 , 12:27 AM
Ten dollars seems to be the normal raise at the table. Isn't 3 times the BB the standard? I'm a life long limit player learning the NL game.
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07-05-2023 , 12:43 AM
Most people open to 15. I do 15, or 10 on btn. I think 10 in all positions is fine too.
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07-05-2023 , 01:07 AM
Barrel, if you get check raised you can fold, if he’s trapping then he will call and check the river, if you connect on the river you can barrel a third time and if you miss you can check back and showdown
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07-05-2023 , 06:30 AM
This AKx board is going to be one which gets range bet a lot, this combined with it being multiway probably lends itself to a smaller size more often than not.

I like a turn check as hard to get 3 streets from weak Ax now. If turn goes check-check and river is a blank you can bet small and fold to a raise. If he bets turn you can call but that doesn't necessarily mean you have to call river as well. He isn't going to value bet worse
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07-05-2023 , 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by mongidig
Ten dollars seems to be the normal raise at the table. Isn't 3 times the BB the standard? I'm a life long limit player learning the NL game.
This will be very game dependent.

$10 at my 1/3 NL table is considered a limp and we'd often be seeing a flop 7ways, so kinda setting up a very awkward multiway bloated pot with a handcuffing small SPR (I'll let you decide if that's what you want to setup).

But if your 1/3 NL table is seeing $10 opens often get it HU, then much more reason to raise first in (whereas I employ a limp/reraise strategy in most positions in my game) and raise to this size.

FWIW, I also originally came from Limit poker. The biggest difference between my Limit strategy versus my NL strategy is I was relatively a lot more aggressive in Limit. This is because you must capitalize on equity advantages on each street as they come in Limit (as you can't make up for it on later streets due to the limited betting size, unlike in NL where you can size to what you want plus induce later street bluffs/overvalues), you can almost always realize your equity (unlike in NL where you can price yourself out), and being aggressive with the worst hand isn't nearly as costly in Limit as it can be in NL. But that's me.

Ggoodluck!G
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07-05-2023 , 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by moxterite
This AKx board is going to be one which gets range bet a lot, this combined with it being multiway probably lends itself to a smaller size more often than not.

I like a turn check as hard to get 3 streets from weak Ax now. If turn goes check-check and river is a blank you can bet small and fold to a raise. If he bets turn you can call but that doesn't necessarily mean you have to call river as well. He isn't going to value bet worse
At 1/3 I think villain could value bet worst on river. May depend on sizing and other reads.
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