1/2, 9 handed

$375 effective

Villain is a chatty 40 yr old very fit white guy who seems pretty solid. Havent seen him bluff more than a cont. bet in the 2 hours ive played with him. He likes to fire out a lot of small value bets.

Otth:
Limp
Villain limps utg +2,
Limp
fish limps otb
hero calls in sb with 97off
Bb fish checks

Flop $12
J86
Checks to villain who bets $15, button fish calls, i see bb fish counting out a call so i call knowing i likely have 2 dirty outs, bb calls

Turn $72
J86T
Hero leads $35. BB fish folds, villain calls, button fish calls

River $177
J86TT
Hero leads for $120, villain counts out a call and tanks for 2 mins then shoves for a total of 325. Fish folds. Hero folds? Villain was fairly quiet during this time fwiw.

I was trying to keep the fish's wide ranges in on the turn with the small bet but i wish i made it more like $50. River fold?

no i think he has a straight as well

Fold. If he has a straight (very doubtful), it's better than yours or he's a genius. Looks so much like JT or 66/88.

Hand was played well.. You bet/fold the river, and now you gotta muck.

Unless you think he could be spazzing here with a 10x that was a draw turned into trips??? It seems kind of unlikely.

Check/call the river if you don't want to give up the hand. I don't think you should have led out on the river... what are you trying to do when you lead on the river? You're only getting better to call and when he shoves you're crushed.

At least when you check the river the most he can bet is around 120 so you can get information if you think you're good.

Preflop: Good.

Flop: Good.

Turn: Bet larger. With fish in the hand and a board that makes a lot of made hands that are inferior to yours, you want to get max. value. With more careful players a half pot bet is reasonable, but here you'll want to go $65ish or perhaps even more. Also, check/raising is a viable line here too because UTG+2 is fairly likely to bet again.

River: As played, bet smaller. The second T not only improves much of UTG+2's range, but it also makes your range more scary when he holds hands like AJ, J8, or a strangely played overpair. A big bet will get a solid player to fold most of the hands you beat, but the hands that beat you will give you action. Going a shade under half pot to about $80 will probably get paid by some of the hands you beat.

As played, after the raise, fold.

Just my opinion...

nah son, this is a clear as day b/f on the river. that being said, i think when you make it 120 its going to be hard to get called by worse. these v's are going to look at that bet in absolute terms and i think it's rare for you to get looked up by a naked J, even against the fish. best case scenario when you bet 120 is getting looked up by 9T.

I like a smaller river bet, probably 75-90ish. AP river is fold. would be shocked to see V turn missed clubs into a bluff as 1/2 river-raise bluffing frequencies are close to nil. dont think he's ever raising with a worse hand either

weird spot. Feels like we are beat, but I also don't see how V doesn't raise a set or 2-pair on the turn on that dripping wet board.

I think it's still a fold.

What hands are you value betting for?

I really like a Ck-c riv here.

AP, it's closer than it seems, I don't think he raises a straight when you bet that much, but it's possible. I think 9T/QT that backed into trips calls. It also seems like an awfully tough spot for this player to flat a set on the turn. Maybe 8T/JT and some missed clubs and perhaps a straight that's trying to get tricky...

AJ, KJ, QJ, J9

Don't go broke in a limped pot without the nuts. If someone is putting in 180bb in a limped pot, they probably have the nuts or close to it. People don't just randomly spazz bluff shove River when your range includes all boats and straights. I would have c/r turn since V is likely to bet again with a FD out there. Your sizing is also way too small with a nutted but super vulnerable hand on that board. I would also lead smaller like $85 on River to get called by worse. $120 is probably getting a fold from Jx a lot.

As played I like a chk-call or chk-fold river.

On the turn you should have pot sized or chk-raised big.

The key in this hand is villain's overbet on the flop. IME this is almost always done w/2pr or better, here looks like a set. It's a very coordinated flop open to alot of bad cards on the turn so 6 handed he wants to take control of the pot right there and get drawing hands out or to make a bad call. Villains (as described) don't bet 15 into a 12 pot on the flop w/AJ type hands here.

4 handed on the turn Villain won't raise your donk bet on turn when this scare card hits so he just calls IP.

He's never shoving river as a bluff here

Negative. There are plenty of hands we destroy that will call a bet on this river. HOWEVER.....now that we're facing a river shove....this is clearly a bet/fold situation. He's not shoving three Tens here. He has a full house. FOLD

no, V would have to be turning his hand into a bluff for you to be good. he doesn't seem like that kind of player.

turn...........65 at least. maybe even 100. that board is so wet and the only hand that beats us is Q9, 35 is not going to get anything done.

river. good sizing. you are only going to get raised by boats. He almost always has JT here.

I'd certainly check the turn