Background:

Villain has been playing super LAGgy, especially in position. I have squeezed him once from this position before very weakly (he raises in LP, gets a caller, I repop huge from blinds and get folds). I squeezed him again when I had AA and I ended up taking it down with a check-raise on a dry flop when he didn't want to commit more chips. So he might be at the point where he's like "ok, this guy is just screwing with me, I need to make a stand" since I've repopped him a few times from the blind big.



Hero is in SB with AK

Hero and Villain effective stacks are ~$700.

2/5 NL.

A few limps to MP. MP min-raises to $10 (he's done weak raises a lot, but when he has a "real hand" he makes a decent raise. I am not concerned with him here). LAG Villain is in CO and makes it $60 to go. Folds to Hero in SB.

Hero's move?

Stacks are a little awkward here. If I raise big and then follow it up with any kind of decent sized bet, I'm basically forcing myself allin. Not necessarily sure if I want that but at the same time, villain is so LAG I can't imagine not reraising here.

What's a solid line to take? Raise to $180-200 and bet $250 into any flop, calling any shove? (Maybe check-raise a strong draw hand like if two hearts flop?)

I don't really like just flat calling because villain's range is so huge I need to take advantage of it, but I feel like a reraise here commits me more than I'd like and I'm almost just praying for a fold.

Thoughts?

oop, vs superlag, he's sick of you raising him pf, AKs = easy shove.

you shouldnt be praying for a fold even at 140bbs because if you put him on a range given description you got equity and it'd be him not you to make a mistake stacking off with his TT or whatever. dont ever call this & play poker with this guy oop.. save that for when you have position or at least a PP if stacks are deep enough.

You want me to shove $700 into a $80 pot???? Really?

I misread his raise size, but I guess you can raise and stack off, but if he calls you its awkward postflop oop vs this lag.

I dont call this ever vs this kind of player oop.

200 seems good to me, call a shove. i probably bet 250/call with any pair or draw on the flop. c/f if i miss in this spot. i wouldnt c/r because he knows you like to do that

Well, given your history it sounds like this guy is ready to make a stand. So if he has any pair he isn't folding vs you on any non A / K flop.

I would raise him but I don't know whether I'm betting a flop where I don't hit a pair or FD or straight obv because if you cbet, you have to call his shove and probably will be behind his sevens. This hand would be a lot different in position.

based on reads and history it sounds like he is more often than not going to be taking a stand here. raise it pre, call a shove. if you completly wiff the flop i would check and re-eval.

I'm guessing he will make a stand with TT+ without a doubt. AK is probably shoving on me, AQ might call, might fold. 99-66 is a fold/all-in 50/50 prop. AJ and 55 and below is a fold. And his range includes a lot more (suited connectors, KQ, KJ, QT, JT ... to name just a few). I am obviously far ahead of his range here and there's absolutely no way I'm folding to a shove preflop.

The problem is if I reraise a sig. amount ($180+) and he flats. Some are advocating check/fold if I miss. But I think that's missing a decent portion of his range that just flat out misses the flop, or might fold to a bet. A Q or J high flop and he might fold TT and below -- not necessarily, but there's a decent chance.

I tend to look at this as a scenario where I'm willing to coinflip the entire way. As in, I decide preflop that I'm playing this to the river and willing to go to the felt with it. But I'm going to allow that to happen gradually and not all at once for the reason that I would do this both with a super strong hand (AA or KK) or a hand like AK. I should get some FE.

Also, don't think just because villain is getting tired of my preflop reraises he's going to make a stand with anything in his reraising range. I think he is getting tired of my reraises and will make a stand, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's this hand. But he would definitely be more inclined to push a hand like TT or 99 (in fact I think it would be an auto-shove on his part with these two hands).

super standard raise to 199$ and call a shove

Raise him $200 more (so it's only 2 black chips to call) and then jam any flop.

I'll post results since I think discussion is dying out. Results are relatively anti-climatic: I pumped it to $220 because while I didn't mind a shove I really didn't want a flat call too much either for all the obvious reasons. MP min-raiser gets out (claims later he would've flatted the raise without me in the pot), superLAG thinks about it for like 2 minutes then folds AJ faceup like it's the fold of the century. Overall I was happy with the move as dealing with both MP and superLAG OOP would've been really annoying if I hadn't of hit my A or K (on the other hand, if I hit my A I probably could've taken superLAG for his stack).

In general, I think this is the best plan of attack.

Reraise to ~$200. If he shoves, obviously call. If he folds, all is well. So the only decision is if he flat calls.

I think you bet $350 into any flop that contains a J or higher or two hearts (and call a reraise). Might be a little weak on the J but it's enough of a paint to make it stick.

If you hit your A or K, check and he will likely be suspicious but either drawing to 2 or 3 outs at best. I check again on the turn and suspect another check behind. Then on the river throw out a $300 "buy the pot" bet that will likely get paid off. This all changes if the board ever gets to three of one suit that are not hearts - then with A/K high you gotta start potting.

If there is no A or K, no hearts draw, and the flop is completely low, check and reevaluate based on his action. Strong bet and I'm inclined to fold. The main reason being that I'm getting looked up way too often by mid pairs. Of course this allows a hand like AQ off the hook (a hand I firmly believe he would've called with preflop), so it's a slight disadvantage but he has AQ less often than all the other hands (and if he had AK I'd bet he'd have shoved preflop anyway).

So that's my reformulated plan of attack. When initially confronted with the situation I wasn't entirely sure mainly because of past history - I figured I might have to stick it all in preflop on a coinflip and wasn't going to be happy about that ... but also wasn't sure I was ready to admit to having a vag. Having a superLAG who loves position raising is horrible if you're in the SB/BB btw -- unless you can pick up some sweet hands and checkraise the crap out of him (or just do it with air once or twice before he catches on).