Hi all,

$1/$3 Wynn. V says he has played $5/$10. I've seen him at the $2/$5 table more than once. Young wg. Hard to tell exactly how old (20s-early 30s) because he has a baby face. Wasn't pleased to see him join the table. He just sat down and opens his first hand to $10 utg. He has me covered. Hero is utg+1 and calls with AdKh. Playing $400 effective. Two other callers. Pot $37.

Flop: K-8-3cc. V bets $15, hero raises $40, folds back to V who calls. Pot $117.

Turn: 7x. V checks, hero bets $60, V kinda flicks the stack of chips I slid out as if to count them and a few second later declares all in. Hero?

Thanks,
DT

Slam dunk 3-bet pre. $10 UTG raise is a sizing tell for this type of player at 1/3. Not to mention you have players behind you that you should deny equity against.

AP, we are ahead of are JTcc, T9cc, 76cc and 65cc. And these hands have decent equity against us. We lose to 3 combos of AA, 1 combosof KK, 3 combos of 88, 3 combos of 44 and 2 combos of 87s.

His sizing tell pre somewhat eliminates AA and KK, not to mention blockers.

We don't have any evidence he would actually play a huge combo draw this way so it has me slightly leaning toward a fold but I would't fault you for calling. The problem is you are very likely leveling yourself against a zomg 2/5 player who played 5/10 one time.

Also, if this guy is worth his salt, he would know that against the population he has no FE against a player like you that takes your line. This has me thinking he has 87ss, 88, or 33.


Folding, but this is one of the rare times at 1/3 where calling a turn shove with one pair is actually a close spot.

I try to avoid leveling, but I do think about it this way. You raised flop and bet turn. What range does he put you on, and does he think you have a range that you'll fold? You're at basically the bottom of your flop raising/turn betting range here. Fold is probably right, even though the board is wet enough he could think your range is draw heavy.

I'm 3-betting this pre though, no questions there. I won't go so far to say his sizing is meaningful, but you're definitely ahead of his range for sure. Once you 3-bet pre this hand plays a lot differently.

I think the flop raise is OK because you can get value from worse, and with his small bet size you don't want to call and price in the folks behind you. Although when V calls me, I'm looking to check back a lot of turns. His range got a lot stronger when he called the flop. Against fishier villains you can definitely go for value and play more face up, but against better players, you'll have to pot control even on some drawy boards. Then you can try and squeeze in a river bet or call.

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What about just calling the Flop for pot control?

This may seem harsh but the preflop/flop combo is pretty much how a fish plays AK.

It's possible that V is flexing muscles, but your line shows strength ("I hit my hand!") and the worst hand I'd expect to see is another AK. There's an outside chance it's a big flush draw, but not enough to gamble with what is likely the bottom of your range. (Would you raise KQ? What else could you have here?)

The preflop flat is fine, likely better than 3b from utg1

Calling as played, largely cuz hero put in a weaksauce raise otf & folllowed with weaker bet ott, i’m never folding to described villain at this stack depth with way “we” played the hand

Against an unknown I'm ok with the preflop flat. It does offer problems as it may invite a world of callers which can get us in difficulty. But it also opens the door for a potential flat/reraise against aggro players.

Even though it's a small flop bet, I'm not sure I like the raise. I just flat and see what happens. Not thrilled when he calls.

Not sure I bet the turn. We likely loose QQ- at this point. If he's on a draw we can setup a bluffcatcher (he'll miss a flush draw ~80% of the time). Getting jammed on sucks cuz now we're sometimes forced to fold a chopping a hand (which is likely the best we're doing at this point), but I'd fold as played after the strength we've shown.

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