sitting in the big blind. Watching almost the entire table limp (6limpers) it gets around to the small blind who makes it 17.

I look down at AK


Info:

Hero 150bb: image as an aggressive winning player I haven't three bet at any point yet though.

Villain 150bb: Clearly a winning player ,but also quite a rock. To the point where I don't even think he raises on the small blind AQo. I put him on JJ+ or AK as. I'm afraid If I repop him I'm going to be in a uphill battle.

The way the table has been playing, if I flat the entire table would come along with me. So this is beyond a bad idea.

but folding AK preflop am I being silly?

No need to 3-bet, just call.

is this a level?

3 bet to 60

you have so much fold equity by 3 betting, the rock will probably fold JJ and AK

obviously fold to a 4bet but 3betting is optimal

flatting is by far the worst thing to do as it will bring in most of the limpers ansd get you stacked on an A or K high board by a probable 2 pair

3bet and take initiative in position

also its less liley villain has AA or KK bc u have blockers

AK is likely but 1010-qq is most likely or AQ

3bet to 60 and fold to a 4bet

the way the table had been playing everyone had been limp calling. this may mean a 4-5 way flop.

flatting willl get u in very tricky spots

3bet

Do not call. 3b or fold pre. If you really think he only plays JJ+ here, your 3B will basically be a complete bluff and your AK will only have value as blockers to the higher PPs, so unless you think he folds JJ/QQ to a 3B, you are basically folding.

Thinking about it, maybe this is the right move.

if he actually plays JJ+ preflop, and folds JJ/QQ, and 4Bs with KK/AA, a 3B of 58 more would get 67% folds (and rake the pot of 31) which would mean this move has $1.33 of EV+ (not great, probably not worth the variance). But he may 4B his entire range (bad for you), however also his range may be wider (good for you), and if he DOES call, he will probably be easy to play postflop considering you have position and he is a rock.

puke! if he's not even opening AQ he's probably not opening TT, right? damn. I mean, you have blockers, so he's less likely to have AA/KK but if you feel like if you 3bet he's unlikely to make a huge mistake folding ain't terrible. Flatting kind of sets up a mess.... specifically with your hand.

I've done it when i'm OOP against a loose-passive fish because when a loose passive 3bets its QQ+/AK (and sometimes not even AK because "they want to see a flop, .... and sometimes not QQ "because an A/K might flop") so I feel okay mucking.


Against this type of villain you'll have a lot more success flatting his raises in position and putting him to tough decisions for his whole stack in spots where his range is capped to 1pr. He's likely a bit of a "TAGfish" meaning he's less likely to make big mistakes pre.

I'm not as against flatting as everybody else.

Limp callers tend to be awful players. Happy to invite them into the pot, while at the same time having position on the OR.

Three bettingfolding into a super strong range is really, really dumb. I mean if we assume that he magically folds JJ, QQ and AK then that is 21 combos compared to AA and KK so it is plus EV (winning ~$27 78% of the time and losing 58$ 22% of the time but if he ever 4 bets them then it becomes a losing play pretty quickly.

Not sure why we are determined to go after a good player with a strong range when we could invite donks into the pot when we have a premium. I mean, SB will be kind of handcuffed so we should be able to play well against him and we can still stack a donk.
I'd love the button every hand, too but I'm not terrified of playing OOP against bad players with weak ranges.

Folding is my 2nd choice.

The guy has our range absolutely crushed and everyone is saying put even more money in the pot.

No wonder why everyones win rates are so low at $1/$2.

If it is true everyone is calling, the OP is right that flatting is bad. The SB has so much of the equity that AKo is barely better than a random hand.

So the only question is whether it is better to 3bet or fold. If Hero 3bets, it needs to be at least 60. Assuming at that point everyone other than the villain folds, you're betting 58 to win 31. It really comes down to what the villain does. If he 4bets AA and KK, that will be 20% of his range. He'll most likely fold AK, which is 25% of his range. If we add up the EV for those two positions, we get:

EV = 0.25*31 - 0.20*58 = -3.85.

If the villain calls both QQ and JJ, the play if fairly simple. If you don't get an Ace or King on the flop, you have to fold. If you do, he'll fold.

EV = (0.33 * 72 - 0.67 * 58)*0.55 = -8.3.

Easy fold under that situation. Even f we remove JJ from the calling list, it is still a fold for us because of the low odds of hitting the A or K.

Therefore, 3betting only becomes profitable if he folds everything other than AA or KK. With a rock, that's possible so I think I'd 3bet. Of course, the analysis holds that we should be 3betting wider in this situation.

My image does not allow me to 3-bet in this spot. I fold unless I'm playing super tilted and want to play for stacks.

Also, I'm not eager to play a big pot with a winning player. At least you have position, but aside from that it's a very marginal spot. Let the winning player take this one and change seats at the first opportunity to get this rock on your left rather than your right (unless there are a bunch of calling stations to his right).

Flatting is the worst of the options. IMO all flatting will do is allow a bunch of people in the pot behind you with an opportunity to outdraw you. I am 3 betting most of the time here and then thinking strongly of folding if we get 4 bet. There is also $12 in dead money out there that will afford you some more equity. Even a rock can stick in a raise with a strong hand when everyone limps, so I am not jumping to the conclusion that he has AA or KK.

3b/ call ainec

"Flatting is the worst of the options. IMO all flatting will do is allow a bunch of people in the pot behind you with an opportunity to outdraw you"
This... people with pocket pairs, suited connecters, etc will call for "pot odds".

Raise to 60, play hand in position if called.