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04-18-2014 , 11:51 AM

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Lapidator

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Sorry OP... that sucks.

But now I think you know now you could have made it $700 pre and $1500+ OTF.

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04-18-2014 , 12:23 PM

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tommyvercetti

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The responses in this thread have been very helpful. I will add this to my notes labeled, "1k mistakes" and keep learning.

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04-18-2014 , 12:27 PM

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donkatruck

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Originally Posted by Lapidator

Sorry OP... that sucks.

But now I think you know now you could have made it $700 pre and $1500+ OTF.

Given V's description, what makes you think that would have resulted in anything other than losing our entire stack? V is described as a giant whale (with I'm speculating lots of money) who plays poker not to win money, but for the thrill of sucking out. It seems like that flop hit his suck out sweet spot very nicely.

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04-18-2014 , 12:41 PM

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Lapidator

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I play to maximize my winnings. The only way to do that is to play for stacks when I'm ahead.

AK is WAY AHEAD of his range, even on this flop.

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04-18-2014 , 01:17 PM

#30

duecesful

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Originally Posted by tommyvercetti

V1 ~2000 Loose as hell. Will call a 100bb shove with 62s at the end of the night.

I might be inclined to just shove pre some of the time and hope for a call with ATC. I think worst case we're flipping with any pair but best case he calls with 45o or something similiar and we're miles ahead.

Last edited by duecesful; 04-18-2014 at 01:34 PM. Reason: clarify shoving preflop

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04-18-2014 , 01:27 PM

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tommyvercetti

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At the time when betting the flop I expected him to play fit or fold. However this flop does smack his range imo. I definitely think he calls with the gutty if I shove but that's being results-oriented.

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04-18-2014 , 01:35 PM

#32

duecesful

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Originally Posted by tommyvercetti

I meant pre. Would he call Q9 for sacks pre. If so, I say go for s hove to maximize value

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04-18-2014 , 01:46 PM

#33

tommyvercetti

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I don't know if he would call pre for stacks. Probably depends on his mood but most likely no.

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04-18-2014 , 02:19 PM

#34

fuluck

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Leading 460 into a 1k pot against a super loose player is not a good plan of attack, imo.

Personally, I would jam or 5 bet big, like 700 to 800 and jam pretty much any flop.

Don't get greedy, op. If the loose goose folds preflop you still scoop a 600 dollar pot.

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04-18-2014 , 02:24 PM

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MackCorl

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Originally Posted by tommyvercetti

I don't know if he would call pre for stacks. Probably depends on his mood but most likely no.

650-750 pre, shove pretty much all turns is no doubt the right play this deep/villain.

If your not comfortable/bankroll allowing to play deep, don't be putting yourself in this situation IMO.

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04-18-2014 , 02:24 PM

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donkatruck

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Originally Posted by Lapidator

I play to maximize my winnings. The only way to do that is to play for stacks when I'm ahead.

AK is WAY AHEAD of his range, even on this flop.

Is it not really, unless you think 53-47 is way ahead. Regardless, I'm finding a better spot to gii against the biggest fish in the room.

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

12,842,280 games 0.061 secs 210,529,180 games/sec

Board: Js 8d 4c
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 53.315% 52.78% 00.54% 6777816 68985.00 { AKo }
Hand 1: 46.685% 46.15% 00.54% 5926494 68985.00 { random }

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04-18-2014 , 04:13 PM

#37

scrolls

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I like 800 pre and close-my-eyes-jam any flop.

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04-18-2014 , 09:32 PM

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iraisetoomuch

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It doesn't matter if we are ahead of ATC here. We should be more concerned with the % of times he calls, how we do against his range when he calls, and how much we stand to win when he folds.

Like, if he calls the flop shove with ATC then that's all well and good.

But if the 30% range that he calls with we are only 30% against, and we win the pot the other 70% of the time he folds (as a possible example) then it may not be profitable to shove here.

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