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AK vs smallish 3 bet by new random player AK vs smallish 3 bet by new random player

10-25-2009 , 01:28 AM
Vallain is new player. So my question is that what line do you guys take with AK oop against a small unknown 3 bettor? 4bet/get it in? call 3bet and play post flop?


Full Tilt Poker $1000.00 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BTN: $208.50
SB: $2424.15
BB: $200.00
UTG: $1089.25
UTG+1: $1000.00
MP1: $913.25
Hero (MP2): $1010.00
CO: $1284.25

Pre Flop: ($15.00) Hero is MP2 with A K
3 folds, Hero raises to $30, CO raises to $75, 3 folds, Hero calls $45

Flop: ($165.00) 8 J Q (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $115.00, Hero

and what do u guys do here?
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10-25-2009 , 02:31 AM
Well, I guess we are beat. Fold.
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10-25-2009 , 08:54 AM
I like calling pre, and folding on this flop.
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10-27-2009 , 10:53 PM
Ya these spots are definitely annoying and come up pretty often - esp when they're not 3-betting a steal, fish often have QQ+, AK - and a lot of the time, they bluff you off a chop post-flop cause they can't stop betting.

I mean... I definitely fold here, and I call preflop almost always.
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10-28-2009 , 02:51 AM
In this spot vs unknown OOP how much can you lose longterm just jamming it for 100bbs over his 3bet?

My guess is, you come out ahead longterm vs unknowns in this spot... for 100bbs or less.
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10-28-2009 , 09:29 AM
well played, now fold. Shoving pre could be anywhere from decently +ev to massive spew depending on the donk, and versus the composite donk population is probably slightly +ev and calling is clearly better imo.
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10-29-2009 , 09:51 PM
Against a complete unknown, I would consider shoving as a 4-bet. Either it's going to be a player who is doing this with KK/AA, and that sucks. Or it will be the player calling with AJs and AQ.
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