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Hero has tight image but seen doing some crazy plays.First hand i went to showdown was 34o raised from the button turned a straight and on a J5624 two-tone board.
Vilain is a tight passive reg, sees a lot of flops but he aint spewing money and generally is considered a good player(dont ask -_-).He is MP
Hero is dealt AK from CO and raises to 25.BTN both blinds and 2 other players see the flop 6 handed.Effective stacks ~100bb
Flop: A 10 9 (pot:150)
4 check Hero bets 100 4 folds Villain Calls
Turn: 3 (pot:350)
C/C
River: 9 (pot:350)
Vilain bets 100, hero???

Versus some villains I like can see myself shoving here. But against this one if he is really very passive, maybe I guess just call.

I'm not a big fan of the check on the turn, I think we lose value and information by not betting there. As played I'd flat call river.

Definitely should have bet turn. River is also easy value bet. As played snap that river. Raising is too fancy and he is weak/tight, so not as likely to call with worse, though it is like impossible for him to have you beat.

With your image, you certainly lost a lot of value in this hand. Seems like you got too fancy or paranoid (of your own LAG image) on turn. But this is where you must make that image pay off, not when you turn the joint with 34o. That's just a bonus, and prob. a losing proposition in the first place.

I though it this way, im losing from 3 combos 99, 3 comb TT , 8 comb A9 , 8 comb A10 , 16 combos T9 for a total of 38 combos.
I was winning and was ahead 8 combos AQ 8 comb AJ maybe JJ( i think he would have 3bet QQ-KK and 16 combos of JQ. The combos i lose are far more than the ones i win with at the flop thats why i decided to pot control.

Add KQ, QJ, KJ as to your combo evaluation on the turn as that gives a gutty / OESD on the flop and lots of oppponents like to call with any draw. Also add flush draws as well, including AXs. Because of all the combos you have including a flush and open straight draw, I think it makes more sense to bet turn. Don't think he's shoving as the 3 is a blank, unless he already has a set. Evaluate river. But pot controlling turn here is reasonable, and if an error, it's a small one.

As played, call.

Call, nh

This is well played because now you know how he plays that hand and you really lost the absolute minimum.

Most people advocate the bet bet bet strategy with TPTK, but sometimes you pot control. A 10 9 hits a lot of tightish ranges too. My guess is that you didnt do that because only better are calling against this type of opponent. You got a showdown, and you probably would be betting more than 100 anyways on turn if you did bet. nh, lost the min basically. Did you think if he has AQ or AJ, hes only calling 2 streets of value? If so, you played it right.

So effective stacks are $500? I think your call on the river is a mistake and you should shove! Your line would look pretty suspect from villains POV, and I could definitely see him calling with a decent ace. He shouldn't have 9-X because that hand has to fold to the flop. If the river were a 10 instead of a 9, then I'd agree that you should only flat river because it's very possible he shows up with 10-X there.

But players don't c/c large bets OOP with bottom pair...I just don't see you being behind that often on the river, and I also think your line looks bluffy enough that A-X may pay you off on the river.

*sorry, I wrote all that before I noticed he's tight passive. Yeah, it's hard to figure out just what these guys are thinking sometimes. I've seen them check/call, check/call with sets. I'm not sure if they are scared they're beat or trapping. So I agree with the call since he's tight passive. Against most villains though, I would shove river as played*

I think river call is mandatory once you check behind turn. Now his TP part of the range wants to get value from you so that you don't check behind again, and his sizing is such that you only need to be good like 20% of the time. So if he does this with AJ/AQ, that's already 16 combos. So you would need 16x5=80 combos of hands that beat you for your call to be bad, and I have a hard time coming up with anywhere close to that #.

i'll look at the spoiler after i post this. Just call. Checking behind on the turn he might think you don't have the ace and maybe just a 10 and he can make 100 with AJish, i think he plays A10 harder. OR, he's super value betting 10,9... either way it's 100 into 450 and i think we have the best hand.

ahhhhhhhh, the super value bet it was, still nh

Where was the tough spot? Not betting the turn? The river is a mandatory call after you showed weakness OTT.

The combos don't have so much to do with it after the action begins. There are more incentives to bet than for PC'ing.
1) Your image
2) Your hand strength/for value
3) Charge straight draws
4) He will hardly ever be bluffing you, so you can expect him to play straight-forward. Thus, you can fold to a raise at any point with almost 100% certainty that you are beat.
5) Villains should call you wider since you playing LAG. And especially if you are unwilling to bet AK here. In other words, you are very polarized.

Incentives for not betting...
1) Maybe you don't like money that much?
2) Oh, the combo thing you mentioned, which, I think is irrelevant at this point, mainly because of the incentives or betting 4) He will hardly ever be bluffing you.

It's tough to go on when the first line of OP appears to be totally contradictory.

Well maybe i wasnt so clear on my original post.Its true that some guy playing with me for the first time will think of me as a lag, but the villain has played with me a lot of times before and he knows i play taggy with a high % of cbeting on A high flops.
Also PF he was the last to call and although passive he understands that calling 20 for 150 is profitable with ATC especially since he was the last to call and end the betting round.
Imo the way played i knew he wouldnt call the flop with anything less than 2 pair or a flopped set but pairing the board on the river plus the really small bet made me call.My logic was flawed though because when the 9 paired according to my read his floped 2 pair or set boated and i should have folded, still i couldnt find a fold given the action and betting.
The post was actually made in order to see if any guys here would take some different line of play or making a fold on the river but i suppose i didnt give all the information needed.
Thanks for the replies

If thats your read then theres no value with your flop cbet.

vs tight/passive players I sometimes go for the c/b/b with TP on Axx flop

Its true there was not value in cbeting the flop but i was last to act and given the 150 in the pot and the 5 checks already i was sure i gonna take the pot here with the 2/3 bet.At that point i didnt have enough info to check and there was a lot of QJ type of hands i wanted to scare away.

sorry...misread the hand....thought it was HU to the flop.